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tamud1
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Reged: 11/05/04
Loc: Allen, TX
Allen American Newspaper
� � � #14066 - 01/17/05 11:04 PM

I continue to be disappointed in our local community newspaper. To pay 50 cents for half a dozen pages of school pictures and ads just doesn't seem fair. I realize that it is a big deal for the parents and the kids to see their pictures in the paper, but it really doesn't do much for me since my boys are out of college. It also seems that much of the news deals with other communities such as Plano and Frisco and not that much with Allen. I would like to see information on what commercial properties are being leased and sold and what businesses are moving into Allen. If they are going to call it the Allen American, then we need more local news about what is happening in Allen. What went on in the city council meeting, planning and zoning, what is the status on street construction, etc.

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momofthree
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Reged: 05/13/02
Loc: allen, tx
Re: Allen American Newspaper new [Re: tamud1]
� � � #14071 - 01/18/05 08:20 AM

I agree. I subscribe out of loyalty, but it is terrible. I enjoy the kid stuff, but would like to see more of the things you mentioned. They rarely have letters to the editor as well. There seems to be more filler then community news.

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denisew
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Reged: 02/18/02
Loc: Allen, TX
Re: Allen American Newspaper new [Re: momofthree]
� � � #14072 - 01/18/05 08:26 AM

Just curious - do you find any benefits to my monthly gardening articles? Or are those just fillers too? I do agree with you about the fact that they need more stories on things in Allen and not Frisco, Plano or McKinney. It seems they get a new community editor every nine to twelve months. Why not contact the managing editor, Derek Price, at [email protected] or our community editor, Nicole Bywater, at [email protected] and give them your honest opinions? If they don't know there is a problem, how can they fix it?

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lil-lisav
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Reged: 11/21/01
Loc: allen,tx, usa
Re: Allen American Newspaper new [Re: tamud1]
� � � #14075 - 01/18/05 09:00 AM

And the schools they print are the same ones each week. I know, I know, they're probably the only schools that offer information/pictures to be printed, but jeeeez.

I am a diehard reader each Thursday and Friday and I probably only get one or two good pieces of information each month.


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sco
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Reged: 10/26/02
Loc: allen,TX USA
Re: Allen American Newspaper new [Re: denisew]
� � � #14076 - 01/18/05 09:05 AM

Denise,

I do not consider your monthly gardening column to be filler. I think that kind of thing is what belongs in a community newspaper. I think the root of the problem is that the Allen American is not truly an Allen paper. The same people are publishing the Allen, Plano, McKinney and possibly the Frisco paper. They seem to be trying to use the same reporters and articles for all of the papers. By virtue of the fact that all of those other cities are larger than Allen we tend to get lost in the shuffle. I find it very frustrating when they publish articles supposedly about Allen and have interviews exclusively from Plano residents.

They have gotten a little better lately. I can remember years past when Allen was having the Christmas parade and the Allen American didn't even publish the parade route in the paper.

Susan


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SPENN
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Reged: 04/20/00
Loc: Allen, TX
Re: Allen American Newspaper new [Re: sco]
� � � #14081 - 01/18/05 09:34 AM

Denise, I love your column. And I agree that it is exactly what should be in the Allen American. I know the pictures I have taken to the paper have been printed but I know others that have taken pictures in that have not been.

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Maurice
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Reged: 12/03/01
Loc: Allen, TX
Re: Allen American Newspaper new [Re: tamud1]
� � � #14093 - 01/18/05 10:56 AM

I felt the same way about the AA, which is why I didn't re-up my sub this year. When we moved here almost 3 years ago, my wife and I wanted to get the local paper so we could keep up on local events and happenings. Needless to say, we felt the same as everyone here has about the AA. It's a very thin paper with little to nothing of interest to offer, if you have kids maybe you'll enjoy the school stuff but having no children that doesn't do anything for us.

Maybe they can get together some more news to put out instead of rehashing the same stories over and over again. What about the police blotter? Local town sports updates and stories? Businesses looking to move here and in the process of moving in? Stories about the history of Allen? Anything else newsworthy within the town, there must be more than is reported?


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denisew
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Reged: 02/18/02
Loc: Allen, TX
Re: Allen American Newspaper new [Re: Maurice]
� � � #14099 - 01/18/05 12:53 PM

It would be nice to get Tom Keener to submit some articles on the history of Allen to the AA. I've seen his articles in the Allen Image and they are very fascinating. The most recent one he wrote was about the history of how our library was started and listed names of people and places that I know.

If you have ever gone into the AA office you would know that they don't have much staff there, so yes, they are using the same reporters for all those newspapers. Nicole is assigned to Allen and hopefully she is getting as much information from our city council and city board meetings as she can along with news from AISD.

I think it is important for the students to be recognized for their accomplishments even though they are from the same schools week after week. I don't understand why they don't print all the information that is submitted to them. It would certainly make a newspaper worth reading and hopefully get more subscribers.

Thanks for your reassurances on my gardening articles. I just wanted to make sure that people didn't consider them to be "fillers" - that people found some use in the information I provided.


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momofthree
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Reged: 05/13/02
Loc: allen, tx
Re: Allen American Newspaper new [Re: denisew]
� � � #14105 - 01/18/05 01:40 PM

Denise,

I do dot consider your article filler. I actually look forward to it. As you know, I seek advice on gardening here online. Maybe, I used the wrong word, but it seems like there are tons of ads and stories from people outside of Allen.


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SAHM2three
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Reged: 03/15/04
Loc: Allen, TX
Re: Allen American Newspaper new [Re: momofthree]
� � � #14109 - 01/18/05 03:44 PM

I think I could have written everyone of these posts. When we moved here 5 years ago I thought it would be so neat to get a paper local to Allen. We didn't even last a year with our subscription. I periodically pick it up and it hasn't changed. All of the suggestions are wonderful and exactly the kind of thing I would like to see in our LOCAL paper. I am tired of reading about Frisco, Mckinney and Plano...I can buy the Dallas Morning News for that information. I am going to write the newspaper and let them know about this thread. I do know the staff is very small and they have always been nice when I contacted them.

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Tiffany


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MsAlyce
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Reged: 04/03/04
Loc: Allen,Texas,USA
Re: Allen American Newspaper new [Re: SAHM2three]
� � � #14118 - 01/18/05 07:22 PM

I have lived in Allen 16 years and I've seen the AA change a couple of times over the years. I think that right now they are trying to run more stories about Allen. I also think that Nicole is not always kept posted of Allen events and news. (I'd hate to think she does't care.) She told me that she has become at the very least a lurker on allenonline so maybe we can help (re)shape what the focus of the paper. I'd like to see editorials. I'd like to see some stories on some of the crimes we are experiencing in Allen. Maybe some stories that ask some "hard" questions. I know that they are out there because I read some in the "metro" section of the DMN.

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Before & After Activity Center for Children 972/390-7162


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denisew
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Reged: 02/18/02
Loc: Allen, TX
Re: Allen American Newspaper new [Re: MsAlyce]
� � � #14123 - 01/18/05 08:03 PM

I know that Nicole would love to hear from us and yes, she does "lurk" here. If you have a suggestion, concern or question, go ahead and contact her. Write your own "Letter to the Editor" to be published in the AA. Remember when Chuck Bloom was the editor a few years ago? He was the man who started "Allen News", a newspaper that competed with the Allen American and had lots of stories about things that happened here in Allen. The AA didn't like the competition and bought out his newspaper and made him editor of the AA. I think he was promoted or just moved on someplace else. He once wrote an editorial about where he could find the best chicken fried steak. Boy, did that ever start a letter to the editor campaign. There were several weeks of newspapers that had individuals giving their recommendations as to where the best chicken fried steak could be eaten. I think it came down to a tie between these two restaurants up in Crum or is it Krum? Now I know we don't need to read about chicken fried steak, but it was something that got people stirred up. Maybe writing a letter to the editor will get something started and others will also do the same. Or even better, write a story and submit it directly to Nicole. Everyone has a story . . . the rest of us just haven't had a chance to read it yet.

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civicminded
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Reged: 04/24/02
Loc: Lone Star State
Re: Allen American Newspaper new [Re: denisew]
� � � #14126 - 01/18/05 08:27 PM

One of the nice things, in the "olden times" were the regular features from "locals". Admittedly, I've been absent as a regular reader for sometime, though I have looked online. When new here ('73) the Paper was a great way to learn about history, events, school stuff, and local flavor from those features. I benefited from "Hart to Hart" and "Living in a tree", as some examples. Challenges to such an enterprise are the town's growth, changes in ownership, lack of (or limited to) citizen input, IMHO. So if folks will submit articles and pics, AND alert Media to your activities, the greater chance exists for publication. One thing I should have raised a bugger fuss about was my last submitted article. Granted, papers alter an article to fit sometimes. But when they add to it from a different person's input, without my consent.....well, it's not worth the keyboard time to say how I felt about that.



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MsAlyce
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Reged: 04/03/04
Loc: Allen,Texas,USA
Re: Allen American Newspaper new [Re: denisew]
� � � #14128 - 01/18/05 08:40 PM

I liked Chuck too! I have read some of his "stuff" in the DMN Metro editorials. I remember the great chicken fried steak war, it was fun!

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Before & After Activity Center for Children 972/390-7162


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Nickel
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Reged: 01/18/05
Loc: Allen, TX
Re: Allen American Newspaper new [Re: MsAlyce]
� � � #14154 - 01/19/05 12:20 PM

Ok -I think I better jump in here and address the issues I can. I'm Nicole Bywater, the current editor of the Allen American and I've visited here in the past, but this is my first post.
Thanks to Denise and Tiffany for sending me the links to this thread so I could be in the loop.

We do welcome all kinds of input at the paper - from letters to the editor, to story ideas, to submitted stories and photos, compliments - and even criticism. I invite anyone to e-mail, give me a call at 972-727-3352, ext. 103, or just stop by our office at 705 N. Greenville Ave.

But to address some of the issues raised previously -
I am the only writer speicifically assigned to Allen. Our parent company, Star Community Newspapers owns 14 Dallas area papers including the Plano Star Courier (a daily), and the McKinney Messenger, and the Frisco Enterprise (both weeklies). My managing editor, Derek Price, works in the Plano main office, where he oversees the Plano, Allen and McKinney papers.

While I try to include as much Allen-specific news in the paper as possible, we do share content with the other company newspapers. If I do include a story from Plano, it's because I believe there is an Allen connection, or interest to Allen readers. For example, there are often stories about Collin County Community College, which I believe to be important even if you don't attend there, because it's supported by your tax dollars. I do strive to cover as much Allen news as possible, because that's where my focus is and I know that's what you guys are looking for.

Our paper comes out twice a week, on Thursdays and Sundays. I do believe it is a good value at 50 cents a copy, and an even better deal for subscribers. At $30 a year, each issue works out to be about 28 cents.

We do have a lot of turnover in staff, which I understand is frustrating to readers. I have been the editor here for about five months, having transferred from our company's Lewisville paper where I spent a year. I moved to Allen shortly before coming to the paper and am trying to become as familiar as I can with the city.

But enough about me, let's talk about content. Schools are a big part of this paper. I publish the school photos that I receive. You see the same ones over and over because these are the only schools that send me photos. With 16 schools in Allen ISD, I can't take the time on a weekly basis to request all of them send me photos. But besides schools, I do cover city council meetings, business news, Arts of Collin County meetings, feature/human interest, and crime. Police reports are published on Sundays, and
are compiled from the reports that APD submits to us. Allen History is published on Thursdays and our club calendar is on Sundays. I don't cover sports - that's done by Brian Porter, our sports editor who works in Plano, covering both Plano and Allen. I constantly send Brian things I hear about for sports, and Brian and I talk often.

The take home message - is still "If I don't hear about something, how can I do something about it?" If there's something you want to see more of (or less of) or a column you want, or an event that's going on - please tell me.

I hope this didn't ramble too much and also helps explain a little more about myself and how things work around here. I will continue to be active on this board, look forward to dialogue about the paper and anything else in the city.


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civicminded
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Reged: 04/24/02
Loc: Lone Star State
Re: Allen American Newspaper new [Re: Nickel]
� � � #14159 - 01/19/05 01:03 PM

You're not ramblin', you're just in time, haha. Thanks for your input...maybe this is an idea for another article. Maybe the onliners that volunteer at schools can submit their insider's scoop? Surely some citizens are Photogs and can send their pics in....we're all taking pics anyway, for family or organizational history books. I know we keep history/scrapbooks both for my Fire and Scouting activities.

I've had articles in the Allen, Plano, Irving, and former DTH papers, so it's not hard. The only time I was ever displeased was the example given (in 2000). So come on folks, let's help Nicole help us. We're already keyboarding around town, AND reporting on local biz and eateries. And probably everyone but me likes sports, so there should be no lack of sports commentators out there, haha.




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denisew
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Reged: 02/18/02
Loc: Allen, TX
Re: Allen American Newspaper new [Re: civicminded]
� � � #14168 - 01/19/05 02:31 PM

Thanks for posting Nicole. Now maybe you will get more articles and pictures submitted for the AA.

Also, I wanted to suggest that if someone out there knows someone who has done something interesting that people would like to read about, contact Shawn Floyd who does the "Signature Profiles" so she can interview them for an article. If you send an e-mail to Nicole, she can forward it to Shawn.


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SAHM2three
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Reged: 03/15/04
Loc: Allen, TX
Re: Allen American Newspaper new [Re: denisew]
� � � #14176 - 01/19/05 07:35 PM

Thanks Nicole for responding and explaining how the paper works. We really need to help you guys out by letting you know about events going on in the city! I know there are some children's concerts at the Lowery Center in Jan and Feb. I would love to see some pictures from that and an article. I know the Mother/Son dance is coming up in March. I love to see follow up stories!

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Tiffany


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sco
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Reged: 10/26/02
Loc: allen,TX USA
Re: Allen American Newspaper new [Re: SAHM2three]
� � � #14469 - 02/01/05 09:41 AM

The last Allen American issue displays why I get frustrated with the paper. There is an article about the current legislative session and the school finance issue. This issue obviously affects Allen so it is certainly relevent. Unfortunately the only official they bothered to interview was the Plano superintendent. If they are going to publish something in the Allen paper they need to interview somebody from Allen. Additionally, there was a meeting last week of a group of concerned Allen citizens about the school finance issue. There was an article in the Sunday edition of the Dallas Morning News but not a word in the Allen American.

Susan


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Nickel
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Reged: 01/18/05
Loc: Allen, TX
Re: Allen American Newspaper new [Re: sco]
� � � #14476 - 02/01/05 02:39 PM

I am sorry that you are frustrated. The story was included in the paper because it is important to Allen readers. It was written by two reporters for our Plano paper and there was not time to get quotes from Allen officials. However, the main source of the story was Sen. Shapiro, who represents Plano, Allen and McKinney and serves as the Chairman of the Senate Education Committee.
Also comparions of the Dallas Morning News and the Allen American are simply unfair because of the significantly larger number of resources the DMN has. The two papers also have very different goals.

I hope you enjoyed the other two front page articles in Sunday's paper regarding Relay for Life in Allen and the public hearing tonight of Allen's downtown, as well as the photo from AHS's theatre production.


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LocalRealtor
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Reged: 02/20/02
Loc: Allen Texas
Re: Allen American Newspaper new [Re: Nickel]
� � � #14481 - 02/01/05 02:49 PM

Why all the typos in the paper? Seems each time I pick it up there are obvious misspells, etc.

Just curious.


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Nickel
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Loc: Allen, TX
Re: Allen American Newspaper new [Re: LocalRealtor]
� � � #14491 - 02/01/05 04:56 PM

There are sometimes typos, which I regret. With newspapers, as opposed to say, magazines, deadlines are very tight, which doesn't always allow for enough time for editing.
Saying that, getting the information corrent is more important to me than putting commas in all the right places, so if there is ever anything incorrect or incomplete, we will print a correction.
But, typos shouldn't occur and I will do my best to make sure they don't. I appreciate your reading the paper.


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Bo
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Reged: 06/18/02
Re: Allen American Newspaper new [Re: Nickel]
� � � #14498 - 02/01/05 06:54 PM

Nicole

You just go ahead and keep up the job you're doing...the AA has had it's share of bad knocks and some of them justified, but a lot of us know it is more of stuff in the past, not you.

A lot of folks don't understand the constraints you have and that is their loss.


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LocalRealtor
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Reged: 02/20/02
Loc: Allen Texas
Re: Allen American Newspaper new [Re: Bo]
� � � #14499 - 02/01/05 09:20 PM

Quote:

Nicole

You just go ahead and keep up the job you're doing...the AA has had it's share of bad knocks and some of them justified, but a lot of us know it is more of stuff in the past, not you.

A lot of folks don't understand the constraints you have and that is their loss.




I'm sure Nicole appreciates the feedback. She's doing a great job and even better, she's responding to our concerns. She recognizes it as our paper, not hers or her company. As our community grows the paper grows and so do our wants and needs. The community demands more. Feedback is how I grow in my business and I'm sure it's how our local newspaper will improve. Every community paper is subject to constraints and that is the nature of the business. Keep up the good work, Nicole and thanks for listening to us.


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sco
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Reged: 10/26/02
Loc: allen,TX USA
Re: Allen American Newspaper new [Re: LocalRealtor]
� � � #14508 - 02/02/05 09:23 AM

Quote:

A lot of folks don't understand the constraints you have and that is their loss.





I understand and sympathize with the constraints Nicole works under at the Allen American. Given the circumstances I think she is doing a pretty good job. Unfortunately understanding it and liking it aren't the same thing. We'll never improve anything if we just accept things as they are. What I would like to see is a true local Allen newspaper. I would like to get the message to the parent company that we need more than one person dedicated to the Allen office.


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Nickel
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Reged: 01/18/05
Loc: Allen, TX
Re: Allen American Newspaper new [Re: sco]
� � � #14513 - 02/02/05 10:38 AM

I do appreciate the feedback. Even if people are unhappy with some things about the paper, hearing from them lets me know people are reading it - which is my whole goal.
Sometimes it's easy to sit in my office here and feel like I'm doing all this in a vaccuum. Thanks for the support and keep those comments coming...


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Bo
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Re: Allen American Newspaper new [Re: Nickel]
� � � #14551 - 02/03/05 08:31 PM

It just seemed that one of your previous editors came from an "investigative" angle on a lot of the articles he wrote. That can be an appropriate and good thing. That is of course if the goal is to publish the truth on a particular matter and the facts are well-founded. It sometimes seemed that he was trying to sensationalize things that in my opinion were either unfounded or quite unsensational, and cast some organizations or persons in an unfavorable light when it did not seem to be deserved.

Case in point: The article that carried implications about "mistreatment of elephants" at a service-club sponsored circus that came through town a few years ago seemed that way and turned me off. Whether there was abuse or not, it seemed to imply, depending on how you interpreted the article, that the club was directly linked to animal abuse, which seemed preposterous.

So far I don't sense that kind of approach in your journalism, and that is why I applaud your efforts.


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