slb
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05-09-09 09:23 PM - Post#85290
In response to StacyLynn624
Sorry if I misunderstood your post. I missed the operative word "filled". So many folks have been under the wrong impression that it would only be used for football (5-6) days per night..... that's what I thought I read. I re-read and now have a better understanding of your post. I need better glasses or younger eyes. :-0
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r75002
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05-09-09 10:08 PM - Post#85296
In response to slb
ALLEN ISD BOND
Number of Precincts 2
Precincts Reporting 2 100.0 %
FOR 2363 63.66%
AGAINST 1349 36.34%
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MO
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Reg: 07-31-08
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05-09-09 10:30 PM - Post#85299
In response to r75002
Ladies and gentlemen, we will have our new stadium!! Let the groundbreaking begin!!
 <--MO doing a happy dance!
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wetvet
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Loc: Allen
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05-09-09 11:59 PM - Post#85304
In response to MO
I was intrigued by one of the signs in oppostion that was being displayed near the voting booth today. It said vote against due to the fact that half our tax dollars go to AISD. And I have to ask, is that a bad thing?
We live in a great city with a lot of ammenities, why not invest in the future by giving our children the best chance for success by ensuring they have top notch programs available? And I understand that there are countless residents of Allen who don't have any children in the school system. But the old adage holds true, it takes a village to raise a child.
And Mo, I am doing the Happy Dance as well.....
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readingu
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05-10-09 11:52 AM - Post#85308
In response to wetvet
YOUR POST HAS BEEN REMOVED!
I am sorry your side did not win the vote. However, your remark goes way beyond sour grapes and is inappropriate for these forums. Your comments about VIP’s and flushers should get you suspended from these boards but I will chalk this up to you getting lost in the moment.
Please watch your remarks.
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r75002
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05-10-09 12:07 PM - Post#85309
In response to readingu
WOW! I never knew that I was a school VIP.
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MO
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05-10-09 12:19 PM - Post#85310
In response to readingu
I am VERY happy that my children will grow up with a top-notch education, giving them well-rounded experiences in literature, problem-solving, history, the arts AND teamwork, commitment, loyalty, exercise, health, and the importance of working together for a common goal. No school system is complete with only some of these processes. We need all for a complete education. We achieved the superior academic educational facilities, now we focus on completing those educational facilities. No student is going to view this stadium as an extreme focus on football, any more than they'll view the new auditorium as an extreme focus on the arts, or view the high school in general as an extreme focus on mathematics, reading, or science. It is all part and parcel of the entire education process.
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05-10-09 12:31 PM - Post#85311
In response to MO
Thank you Mo...wise words!
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slb
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Loc: Allen, TX
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05-10-09 04:32 PM - Post#85318
In response to MO
Placing politics aside - the following excerpts are quite interesting considering the topic of discussion:
Excerpt from an article by Allison Frederick 7/28/2008.
A couple of years ago, Forbes Magazine dubbed Condoleezza Rice "The Most Powerful Woman in the World." I wanted to learn more about her because I am amazed at how well she handles herself in front of the press. How did she manage to always present herself with poise? She is always articulate even when others try desperately to ruffle her feathers. It didn't take long for me to figure out how she became such a powerhouse. I believe Condoleezza is so successful because her parents already knew their daughter was the most powerful girl (woman) in the world. It just took Forbes Magazine decades to catch on.
Condoleezza was born on November 14, 1954. Her father referred to her from that time forward as his "Little Star". From birth, Condoleezza was raised within a strong community and family life. Her father was the reverend of the Westminster Presbyterian Church, a high school coach, and a high school guidance counselor. Her mother was a high school music teacher and played the organ at the church. Her parents commitment to the members of their community gave Condoleezza a first-hand glance at the power that comes from making a difference in your community, giving her a place within the community as a star within the constellation – creating a whole picture with those around her.
Condoleezza summarizes her family's legacy in that statement. For generations, Condoleezza's family created opportunities for themselves and their children by committing themselves to education. Self-teaching and making sure they attended university was a tradition with her family. Her parents had very high expectations of Condoleezza. They exposed her to ballet, French, music, current events, football and other athletics. They felt as if her survival depended on a comprehensive education.
Condoleezza's father worked with many children in the community that didn't have the same home opportunities as she did. He was always encouraging someone to make the most of themselves. Condoleezza followed in his footsteps with several civic commitments, including, as I mentioned before, co-founding an after-school program in Northern California while she was a professor at Stanford University. (Prior to her appointment as Secretary of State of the United States of America.)
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FB247
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05-10-09 06:20 PM - Post#85324
In response to slb
I hope that the community responds to the new stadium in a positive way. For example all those folks holding the signs sitting in chairs out there all day Saturday maybe could use the track and walk and be in better shape to at least be able to stand up and hold the signs.
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Maurice
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Loc: Allen, TX
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05-10-09 07:42 PM - Post#85328
In response to FB247
Congrats to those who voted for this, you got what you voted for. Now that this is over and the vote has been tallied to give us this new stadium, we shouldn't be needing anymore buildouts now right? Since this was pushed off for so long because it wasn't as imperative as other things that have been built correct? Be nice to see this turn into a revenue generator, to justify its cost otherwise there'll be much need for a class on return on investment before any more bonds are proposed or voted on. lol
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vrs
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05-10-09 07:50 PM - Post#85329
In response to Maurice
There may or may not be one more elementary school in addition to the ones approved last November and of course renovations will always be with us.
Other than that, the projects in this bond do indeed represent the balance of the main physical plant for the district to buildout. 
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vrs
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05-10-09 07:52 PM - Post#85331
In response to FB247
For example all those folks holding the signs sitting in chairs out there all day Saturday maybe could use the track and walk and be in better shape to at least be able to stand up and hold the signs.
Hey - watch it!! I was out there in my barco-lawnchair for a while.
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vrs
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05-10-09 07:57 PM - Post#85332
In response to vrs
To the thread -
Thanks to all who voted. Obviously I am glad the bond passed, but there are always two sides to the issues - why we have an election.
Thanks especially to those who worked so hard on the "Vote FOR" campaign effort.
And now we move forward.
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DrivinTooFast
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05-11-09 08:58 AM - Post#85340
In response to vrs
Now we can only hope that the bond money gets spent as EFFICIENTLY as possible. You'll get an extra atta boy from me if you can deliver the stadium on time, UNDER BUDGET.
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El Jeffe
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05-11-09 11:03 AM - Post#85352
In response to readingu
I resent that I can't have an opinion by some of the pro voters on this board, but that is par for the coarse for them. Guess if you are against something here in Allen then zip it.
Get used to it on this board, been this way since the zoning issues. That's why I rarely post here at all.
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Maurice
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05-11-09 12:16 PM - Post#85356
In response to vrs
I hope there's no more schools that need to be built, if so, then this stadium should have again taken a back seat. Yes, renovations that are necessary will always be with us but we shouldn't need to worry about any of that for many years yet as all this stuff is fairly new.
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vrs
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05-11-09 12:30 PM - Post#85358
In response to Maurice
Last November's bond had monies for Beverly Cheatham Elementary and also for Elementary #17. One third of that bond was also for renovations. The plant is aging more quickly than we realize.
Money for land for Elementary #18 was approved sometime back.
There is some uncertainty about whether #18 will actually be required. To my way of thinking, when AISD gets to buildout, that is as big as we will ever be in terms of student enrollment because the pattern in Allen is that people with young families move in, the kiddos grow up and leave, and mom and dad stay on. With the City amenities (senior center, golf course, natatorium, etc.) as well as the arts and dining and medical care all in such close proximity - where would we go?
Therefore it might make sense to be a little overfull right at buildout rather than building a school we don't need and running a lot of campuses below capacity (operationally inefficient) later on. And as painful as attendance zone realignment is, I would sure not want to be the Board that has to close an elementary school because of declining enrollment.
The demographers do a good job but when you get down to the end it almost has to be wait and see.
So I would expect to see the district acquire land for #18 but maybe hold off building it. It is a decision for a future Board.
So, in that sense, all the classrooms that we know for sure we need have preceded these facilities.
I am ending my 9th year on the Board and I can tell you people have been asking for these facilities the entire time and we said "classrooms first."
You and I are on the same page there.
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Edited by vrs on 05-11-09 12:31 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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rclark
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05-11-09 02:45 PM - Post#85373
In response to El Jeffe
Why do any of us post? To change minds, to persuade? Or just to vent?
Question for the whole forum - did you change your mind on the bond issue? If so, what caused the change? If not, what would it have taken to change your mind?
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chf
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Loc: NW Allen
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05-11-09 03:54 PM - Post#85387
In response to vrs
Therefore it might make sense to be a little overfull right at buildout rather than building a school we don't need and running a lot of campuses below capacity (operationally inefficient) later on. And as painful as attendance zone realignment is, I would sure not want to be the Board that has to close an elementary school because of declining enrollment.
I totally agree. This is the exact situation Richardson ISD is in right now (consolidating elementary schools). I don't think they have done it yet, but it has been recommended because of declining enrollment.
Edited by chf on 05-11-09 04:00 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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