FB247
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10-25-09 07:29 AM - Post#98336
I just do not see how something like this could happen.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33441571/ns/local_ news...
Why would they put that kid back in the same school!
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Brewer
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10-25-09 09:41 AM - Post#98337
In response to FB247
That is nuts! I think the first thing that should be done is to move the boy to another school for the sake of the investigation and the girl.
I just don't think the AISD cares about much more than test scores and football.They sure don't care about the safety and security of our kids and this is just another way they have proved it.
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10-25-09 10:04 AM - Post#98338
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Thanks for posting this. It was on new news last week. There is NO REASON why this boy should be attending the same school. The victim's parents were told the boy would be attending the alternative school but then the school changed their plans. Why? Because the boy's (offender) parents, whose kid has a history of disclinary issues,got an attorney and figured a way to scare the district into allowing their child into the same school. So instead of standing up for the victim the district decided to not risk legal costs, etc. I'm sorry, but there are some battles worth fighting and some principles worth standing up for. This is a horrible black eye for the school district.
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rtinallentx
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10-25-09 03:55 PM - Post#98355
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"The charges have been filed, the case has been filed, recommendations have been made,” said Sgt. Jon Felty.
I wonder what the hold up is getting this to court? Seems like the/a Judge could issue an order sending the boy to the alternative school.
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denisew
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10-25-09 06:41 PM - Post#98373
In response to rtinallentx
This is such a sad situation. This little girl's life is changed forever because of what the boy did to her. I really hope they get it all worked out in court and the boy is made to attend the alternative school.
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sco
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10-25-09 07:22 PM - Post#98377
In response to denisew
I agree it is a sad situation. It is also a difficult one for the school district. There are undoubtedly legal requirements for the district that we may not know about or understand.
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10-25-09 07:43 PM - Post#98382
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They had said the boy would go to an alternative school but then the boy's parents got an attorney to persuade the district to do otherwise. I still think the district shouldn't have caved into pressure. Err on the side of caution, not out of fear of a legal battle.
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10-25-09 07:46 PM - Post#98383
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"The charges have been filed, the case has been filed, recommendations have been made,” said Sgt. Jon Felty.
I wonder what the hold up is getting this to court? Seems like the/a Judge could issue an order sending the boy to the alternative school.
He's yet to hear it. These things take time. In the meantime the school district is allowing this boy back at the same school.
Okay, let's say, "presume innocence until proven guilty." Is that still a chance worth taking considering the risks? I GUARANTEE if a teacher was 'accused' of something they'd not allow them to work until it was proven one way or another.
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RRRquilter
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10-25-09 07:51 PM - Post#98384
In response to FB247
Just to play devils advocate here. We have only heard one side of this alleged crime story. The boy who allegedly committed the crime has not been proven guilty and if there are charges that have been filed are they felony charges or misdemeanors? My guess is that the school district and their attorneys are doing what they are legally bound to do and it is not always cut and dried.
I do feel for the little girl and her family but this is between the school district and the two families of the children that are involved and not for us to make rash judgments when we do not know the entire story.
That being said, I do not know anyone involved in this case and this is the first I have heard of it.
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10-25-09 08:02 PM - Post#98387
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Just to play devils advocate here. We have only heard one side of this alleged crime story. The boy who allegedly committed the crime has not been proven guilty and if there are charges that have been filed are they felony charges or misdemeanors? My guess is that the school district and their attorneys are doing what they are legally bound to do and it is not always cut and dried.
I do feel for the little girl and her family but this is between the school district and the two families of the children that are involved and not for us to make rash judgments when we do not know the entire story.
That being said, I do not know anyone involved in this case and this is the first I have heard of it.
One side of the story or not let's not overlook the other part of the story:
"One of the key recommendations from child abuse experts at the Collin County Children’s Advocacy Center is that the two students be kept apart. That protects the integrity of the investigation, the girl from any trauma and the boy from any new allegations, officials said."
They started the year at two different schools. Why put the boy at the same school? Why not at any other school in the area?
As a parent I'd be concerned if a kid with these types of allegations was at my child's school. He should be at an alternative school until it's settled.
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c3lost
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10-26-09 04:26 PM - Post#98464
In response to Retired 1
While I totally understand, and would not want my daughter in this situation; this did not happen at school so can the district remove him legally?
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RRRquilter
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10-26-09 05:17 PM - Post#98469
In response to Retired 1
Just to play devils advocate here. We have only heard one side of this alleged crime story. The boy who allegedly committed the crime has not been proven guilty and if there are charges that have been filed are they felony charges or misdemeanors? My guess is that the school district and their attorneys are doing what they are legally bound to do and it is not always cut and dried.
I do feel for the little girl and her family but this is between the school district and the two families of the children that are involved and not for us to make rash judgments when we do not know the entire story.
That being said, I do not know anyone involved in this case and this is the first I have heard of it.
One side of the story or not let's not overlook the other part of the story:
"One of the key recommendations from child abuse experts at the Collin County Children’s Advocacy Center is that the two students be kept apart. That protects the integrity of the investigation, the girl from any trauma and the boy from any new allegations, officials said."
They started the year at two different schools. Why put the boy at the same school? Why not at any other school in the area?
As a parent I'd be concerned if a kid with these types of allegations was at my child's school. He should be at an alternative school until it's settled.
I completely understand and actually agree with you...but, the district has to follow the legal advise they are given from their attorneys. I personally do not know the laws and how they pertain to both children. I suspect that since this is something that did not occur in the school and has not been resolved legally that the district is only doing what they are legally bound to do.
My mom was on the school board (in Alaska) when I was in school and they had a legal situation with a child being sexually abused. The school district and board members were all sued because of the action they took against the suspect and the principal of the school. In the end the Superintendent lost his job because of the actions he and the board took to protect the victim. Unfortunately, this is how things go sometimes.
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10-27-09 06:20 AM - Post#98515
In response to RRRquilter
only doing what they are legally bound to do
If this is the case, then I don't wnat to hear about how they have the best interest of the children in mind anymore.
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vm7mm
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10-27-09 06:36 AM - Post#98517
In response to RRRquilter
This incident obviously did not happen at school, the schools do not have to take any action unless ordered by the courts to do so and where were the parents when this occured? Maybe CPS should get involved.
Edited by vm7mm on 10-27-09 07:09 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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10-27-09 07:59 AM - Post#98518
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This incident obviously did not happen at school, the schools do not have to take any action unless ordered by the courts to do so and where were the parents when this occured? Maybe CPS should get involved.
I agree CPS should be involved, with the offender, not the victim. Let's not vilify the victim (or parents). 7 to 8 kids (neighborhood kids were there) were playing in the house (no larger than 2200 sqft) and the kids, as usual, went upstairs to play. Some outside in the yard, others in the house. All of a sudden there's a commotion with some kids complaining about some kind of disgusting thing going on (it was VERY short timespan). Upon investigation the parents called the police and this whole process started.
Careful how you judge what's going on (speaking to all). Err on the side of the victim in all cases of alleged sexual abuse.
I don't care whether this happened at school or not. With regards to legalities I understand the point but from a position of common sense what a crazy statement to make. If a teacher or older student was a violater off school grounds I wouldn't want them in the general school population. At least not until the sitution is worked out (legal system).
The victim's parents can't let the child go to the school because of the trauma. So who wins here? If indeed the episode happens (close or as it's described), which I'm certain it did, then this kid should have stayed at the alternative school until everything was resolved. Again, he started the semester over there.....why?
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10-27-09 08:01 AM - Post#98519
In response to campbellfam
only doing what they are legally bound to do
If this is the case, then I don't wnat to hear about how they have the best interest of the children in mind anymore.
I agree Campbell. The district needs a backbone right now. They did at the start of the year but the threat of a suit caused them to err on the side of the alleged violator. And now the victim's parents have got an attorney to do the same.
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RRRquilter
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10-27-09 08:17 AM - Post#98524
In response to Retired 1
I think we all would agree that something different needs to be done to protect the victim in this case. But again, I am sure the district is handling this case with the legal ramifications in mind.
LR, is sounds like you must know personally some of the parties involved in this case. I feel for the victim and her family. Hopefully this can be resolved in a manner pleasing unto them.
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vm7mm
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10-27-09 09:02 AM - Post#98530
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My wife works for the school district, and she believes that the student has been put back in alternative school.
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10-27-09 06:46 PM - Post#98568
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My wife works for the school district, and she believes that the student has been put back in alternative school.
No, he's still at Anderson. Parents should be real proud. I'd be livid if my kids were at school with a possible sex offender. FYI, he has been at the alternative school before for other issues.
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Brewer
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10-27-09 08:17 PM - Post#98571
In response to Retired 1
All the parents that think it's a problem should address the board and see where it gets you.
A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week.
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