Retired 1
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12-01-09 08:40 AM - Post#100980
In response to Aolain
If kids are doing drugs, dealing drugs, why is the APD at fault?
Here is a question:
If the "perp" was a black kid "in the hood" would we be so sympathetic?
A suburban kids gets involved in drugs, it is not the APD's problem.............
If the APD busts an upper-middle class white kid for drugs, I say, good for the APD.
Sorry to be so harsh here.
I agree. Drugs are bad and getting caught is sometimes the best thing that can happen to them. Especially outside of the hood! I lost some good friends growing up. They went with the wrong crowd and their lives changed forever.
I have no mercy for drug dealers or those who set you up with one (same misdeed as dealing). It's too bad that some parents are just too stupid to let their kid learn a valuable lesson. We're so busy protecting lil Johnny that we end up missing a valuable lesson and end up condoning the action. "That bully cop...shame on him for doing his job!"
You get caught with drugs maybe the courts can show you mercy and you can learn a lesson. If you get caught dealing or showing people where the dealer is then you deserve a minimum 5 to 10 year sentence without parole. We are way too lax on the drug issue as a society.
Drugs are bad and we should make examples of those who are caught.
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vm7mm
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12-01-09 12:07 PM - Post#101001
In response to Retired 1
So, if one of your children (that had never been in trouble before) got set up by APD and one of their snitches, you would let he or she go to prison? That would just turn a good kid into a bad adult.
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12-01-09 12:53 PM - Post#101003
In response to vm7mm
To all:
Please stay on topic it is only fair to the original poster.
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AG1964
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12-01-09 02:29 PM - Post#101008
In response to Webmaster
I agree with the Webmaster.
Start a new thread if you like but I would like to know how TXHunter is doing and if they get some type of resolution.
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TXHunter
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12-01-09 04:10 PM - Post#101023
In response to AG1964
Hello, 911? Can I have my thread back, please!? 
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Retired 1
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12-01-09 04:11 PM - Post#101024
In response to AG1964
I'm glad the OP contacted management. They need to know. However, don't categorize (as one poster did) all of those types of employment as breeding grounds for drug users. I bused tables in high school and was a waiter all through college and I never witnessed that type of behavior. Plus it's pretty risky throwing IHOP under the bus. You have a daughter that was hanging with the wrong crowd and based on her history of abuse, etc. she was a high-risk child. "Just say No" comes to mind. It's not fair to defame a company especially for not wrongfully terminating her.
Yes, if my child was busted for drugs he'll serve the time. They know now they'll pay consequences for crimes or misdeeds committed. Pretty black and white at my house. Showered with love but unwavering on consequences. I've had kids miss playoff games or major activities because they made a mistake. My son did something disruptive last year in class (made a joke in the middle of class) and the teacher asked if I would be okay with him staying in detention for 15 minutes after class. I asked her to double it and to make sure he was 'miserable'. He hasn't messed up since. Raise the bar and society will be better for it. Off the soapbox now...
Good job OP for finding the bag of weed and handling the issue...and for acknowledging failure. None of us are perfect and we all make mistakes. You dealt with it so great job!
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TXHunter
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12-02-09 09:48 AM - Post#101062
In response to Retired 1
Not sure if you're referring to me as "throwing IHOP under the bus" or not. But my only problem with them was when I asked that her employment be terminated and they would not. And what made it worse was the reason given.
I was contacted again last night by IHOP and informed of the results of their investigation and am now satisfied that my request has been answered. We have now finished contacting the parents of those kids involved and with the exception of one who was reluctant to believe it they were all grateful for the heads up. Hopefully we have prevented them from having to go through the ordeal that my family is now.
Thanks again for all the responses. And don't forget, if they say you're asking too many questions, ask some more cause you're getting close to something.
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DrivinTooFast
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12-03-09 12:31 PM - Post#101170
In response to TXHunter
My guess is that if HR is involved, there will be heads rolling.
Try this one out - results or the photos get sent to tmz.
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TXHunter
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12-07-09 10:04 AM - Post#101369
In response to DrivinTooFast
I was thinking more like Fox 4. But that was not necessary in the end. IHOP handled the issue, probably more out of cya than anything but they did.
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Al C
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12-07-09 02:11 PM - Post#101397
In response to TXHunter
So they got a whole new staff there now?
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TXHunter
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01-04-10 03:01 PM - Post#102842
In response to Al C
Dont know about a whole new staff but there are/were 6 less employees there than when this all started. Some were dismissed and some quit rather than submit to drug testing.
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campbellfam
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01-05-10 08:44 AM - Post#102894
In response to TXHunter
We had a friend go through the hell of a teenager using drugs and I am terrified for my kids and my sympathies and prayers go out to you.
Our friend had the hardest time getting the APD to follow up on drug reports even with photo evidence and she did a lot of what you did- call parents herself, contact HR of the restaurant her daughter was working for at the time. She told me to not let my kids work at any restaurants in the area, including fast food restaurants as dealers like to target places where kids are and employees get sucked in fast because they have a paycheck they can use to buy.
I hope your daughter comes out the other side safe and wiser.
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mspam3
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01-05-10 04:55 PM - Post#102927
In response to campbellfam
Those teen years are scary. Our 2 made it through drug and alcohol free but we did have a span of time when my daughter worked at a fast food place here. There was a girl that worked there who never graduated and wasn't even from here. She just lived in an aprtment here and worked. She was into drugs and often tried to get our daughter hooked up which our daughter wanted no part of.
I found out that this girl was on parole for stealing. Then when I found out she had violated her parole, I threatened to go to the police if she didn't stay away from my daughter and that if she tried to retaliate, I would be sure she got sent back to Florida where she came from.
I didn't tell my daughter that I did that as she would have been furious with me for interfering, but that's what parents are for. Not only to teach but to protect.
Later on, our daughter's car was broken into at her apartment complex and I have always wondered if it was that girl. I don't know hwatever happened to her.
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Karen Matt
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05-01-12 06:52 AM - Post#148685
In response to Retired 1
For parents whose teens have fallen into bad company and have started engaging in dangerous behavior, seeking help is a good idea. The earlier the intervention, the better. Being with the wrong crowd are one of the main causes of drug abuse and addiction. It can have you end up locked up, killed, pregnant or catch a STD.
There are a few suggestions here for parents of troubled teen who hang out with bad friends.
Edited by Karen Matt on 05-01-12 07:06 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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05-01-12 11:35 AM - Post#148702
In response to Karen Matt
The teen drug issue is merely the symptom. Frankly, pot doesn't scare me a bit, but that's because I come from a place that has broken down the walls of propaganda regarding this plant. Alcohol, cocaine and beyond are where the real problems lie. 80% of Americans have experimented with pot at some point in their lives and go on to be successful humans even while continuing. If we could simply remove the mystique associated with this plant, we could reduce the rebellion that causes some kids to try something their parents are so afraid of.
Lastly, the "bad element" associated with pot is the exact "bad element" associated with alcohol during prohibition. It's the prohibition that creates this need to test the boundary. Talk to your kids honestly about drugs minus the drama and hyperbole and you'll get through to them. If you're spewing misinformation about a plant, your kids know you don't have a clue and will shut you out.
Remember, I have no clue what I'm speaking of, just 18 years working with incarcerated youth who never should have been inside a jail for pot. It's not the pot that ruins your kid's life, it's dealing with this plant on a criminal level that ruins lives.
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mcollins45
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05-07-12 02:14 PM - Post#149094
In response to MissingChico
Good statement
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vm7mm
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05-07-12 06:11 PM - Post#149104
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