MissingChico
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08-26-10 04:21 PM - Post#117364
This is a must see for ALL Americans. The effects of depleted uranium use in our weapons used against Iraq and Afghanistan has caused deformities in infants and multiple cancers at a rate many times greater than any neighboring country. The videos are graphic, but we have to know what our soldiers have been exposed to as well. This will come home to our families and friends. This has been declared equal to or worse than post H-Bomb exposure in Japan.
Victims of Depleted Uranium (GRAPHIC)
Democracy Now report
Worthy of war crimes
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nomoon
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08-26-10 08:01 PM - Post#117371
In response to MissingChico
There is no shortage of reports claiming to debunk this allegation.
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lostyankee
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08-26-10 08:10 PM - Post#117372
In response to nomoon
and no shortage of reports confirming as of the search I just did. While the WHO claims no effects, there are other studies, some by our USDA that show otherwise.
Either way it bears further study.
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vm7mm
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08-26-10 08:29 PM - Post#117373
In response to lostyankee
What goes around, comes around!
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Aolain
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08-26-10 09:09 PM - Post#117375
In response to vm7mm
I have no idea about the "Truth" of the depleted uraniam rounds.
I know when I was in the service in the 80s and these things first came out (in our case with the Bradly Fighting Vehicle) there was a lot of concern about them.
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Maurice
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08-26-10 11:32 PM - Post#117383
In response to Aolain
Yep, DU is nasty stuff for sure and it's sad that anyone has to suffer the effects, if they are indeed true. Just as it's sad that the rescue workers have suffered the effects of 9/11.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/06/nyregion/0 6healt...
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MissingChico
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08-27-10 10:40 AM - Post#117397
In response to Maurice
And our country has failed both sets of victims.
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Maurice
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08-27-10 03:33 PM - Post#117424
In response to MissingChico
Yes, because we know it's always our fault at least in some peoples eyes. We didn't fail the 9/11 rescue workers, they went in to try to save lives that were snuffed out by a punk, sneak attack by cowardly terrorists, if you might have missed that.
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Al C
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08-27-10 04:02 PM - Post#117428
In response to Maurice
Yeah, but that was our fault too, right?
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MissingChico
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08-27-10 05:10 PM - Post#117436
In response to Maurice
Yes, because we know it's always our fault at least in some peoples eyes. We didn't fail the 9/11 rescue workers, they went in to try to save lives that were snuffed out by a punk, sneak attack by cowardly terrorists, if you might have missed that.
And our knee jerk response was to kill 100,000's of innocent civilians and leave them with 1000's of years of disfiguring, cancerous diseases, yeah that sounds rational. All that and Bin Laden is still out there, probably living on a Saudi pension. Americans will not care until their kids return home and bear two headed, faceless children. And even then, the care will be minimal for anyone not directly affected as you have so predictably displayed.
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mgrayar
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08-27-10 05:47 PM - Post#117441
In response to MissingChico
Chico,
My birthday was this month and the one gift I really wanted wanted was for you to say something positive about our country and our town. I keep thinking that at some point you going to admit how lucky we are to have both.
Learn more about Cystic Fibrosis and how you can help at:
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fountain
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08-27-10 10:03 PM - Post#117456
In response to mgrayar
Chico,
My birthday was this month and the one gift I really wanted wanted was for you to say something positive about our country and our town. I keep thinking that at some point you going to admit how lucky we are to have both.
Where's allen when you need him? One to many wanted and are is missing!
Edited by fountain on 08-27-10 10:19 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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mgrayar
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08-27-10 10:29 PM - Post#117459
In response to fountain
Chico,
My birthday was this month and the one gift I really wanted wanted was for you to say something positive about our country and our town. I keep thinking that at some point you going to admit how lucky we are to have both.
Where's allen when you need him? One to many wanted and are is missing!
Translation please!
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MissingChico
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08-28-10 08:32 AM - Post#117464
In response to mgrayar
Chico,
My birthday was this month and the one gift I really wanted wanted was for you to say something positive about our country and our town. I keep thinking that at some point you going to admit how lucky we are to have both.
As a very smart friend has said, "I can't unsee what I've seen in the world and I can't unlearn what I've learned over the years". We'll never fix our problems unless we admit them and and work to change them. Simply sitting on our high horse saying "We're #1" fixes nothing. We continually repeat the same mistakes, fight the same battles, polarize ourselves more and more. When I see the people I know leaving this country and reporting back on the happiness, fulfillment, and genuine improvement they've experienced being away from what this country has become it just digs at me. Unless you live elsewhere, travel beyond tourist destinations and actually experience a meaningful noncorporate culture, you may never understand my perspective.
But Happy Birthday, hope it's everything you wish for.
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mgrayar
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08-28-10 12:38 PM - Post#117478
In response to MissingChico
Grass is always greener, I get it. I hope you achieve your goal of happiness in Belize/Equador. It would be tough for America to ever be what you are looking for. Countries that have no responsibility beyond their borders are booming.
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MissingChico
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08-28-10 01:34 PM - Post#117481
In response to mgrayar
Grass is always greener, I get it. I hope you achieve your goal of happiness in Belize/Equador. It would be tough for America to ever be what you are looking for. Countries that have no responsibility beyond their borders are booming.
You may find this difficult to believe considering you find nothing wrong with endless war, hate, prejudice and all those other topics so much a part of this landscape, but there is greener grass out there. The material possessions, the need for continuous war victory simply to display our force and all the things that have become uniquely American wear down one's soul. So yes, greened pastures do exist if you can break yourself of the mind*#c* we live under.
Back to the topic, you of all people, it seems would understand the plight of parents with children having extensive medical needs. If you discovered today that Allen drinking water had a poison needlessly added that caused cystic fibrosis, would you stand up? Would you stand up it was your neighbors kid? How about for kids in McKinney? We've done worse in our path of destruction throughout the Middle East and elsewhere, yet it stirs little response back here. I don't blame the soldiers on the ground, they follow orders. It's US policy I question. When we begin seeing more children as those in the pictures ending up in our hospitals, perhaps you will give a damn, then again, I'm not holding my breath.
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mgrayar
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08-28-10 02:30 PM - Post#117483
In response to MissingChico
Grass is always greener, I get it. I hope you achieve your goal of happiness in Belize/Equador. It would be tough for America to ever be what you are looking for. Countries that have no responsibility beyond their borders are booming.
You may find this difficult to believe considering you find nothing wrong with endless war, hate, prejudice and all those other topics so much a part of this landscape, but there is greener grass out there. The material possessions, the need for continuous war victory simply to display our force and all the things that have become uniquely American wear down one's soul. So yes, greened pastures do exist if you can break yourself of the mind*#c* we live under.
Back to the topic, you of all people, it seems would understand the plight of parents with children having extensive medical needs. If you discovered today that Allen drinking water had a poison needlessly added that caused cystic fibrosis, would you stand up? Would you stand up it was your neighbors kid? How about for kids in McKinney? We've done worse in our path of destruction throughout the Middle East and elsewhere, yet it stirs little response back here. I don't blame the soldiers on the ground, they follow orders. It's US policy I question. When we begin seeing more children as those in the pictures ending up in our hospitals, perhaps you will give a damn, then again, I'm not holding my breath.
First of all, do not pretend that you know me, or anything about me. You have no idea what I stand for and what is important to me. Your abusive and abrasive posts towards those who disagree with your viewpoint continuously expose your intolerance.
Second, put your money where your mouth is. You demonize anyone who believes in capitalism and condemn those who are successful in life, yet you are currently looking to purchase a home in a tropical paradise in order to live a life less burdened. You plan to buy this home in a country that contributes little to the world beyond its borders. Instead, since you try to come across as altruistic, why not donate that money to the kids from the article you have posted. Are you willing to part with your goal of a tropical existence in order to help these kids? You seem to already have a nice lifestyle here in Allen. What is more important to you? It seems to me that you have a case of hypocrite-itis, there is no pill for that!
Third, I do not need you to remind me of my daughter’s condition, nor do I need you to tell me of how it relates to other kids with disabilities. I sleep well at night knowing that we are doing everything we can for her and kids like her. Rather than passing judgment, how about you sign up and help. You can find out how by clicking on the link below. Maybe you can find some time in between your searchs for real estate in paradise.
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vm7mm
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08-28-10 03:08 PM - Post#117485
In response to mgrayar
But, would you be pushing the cystic fibrosis issue if your daughter didn't have it? Probably not. If I recall correctly, you once posted something similar to me when you didn't agree with one of my posts. Seems as if you are always eating out at different (sometimes expensive places), couldn't you donate some of that money to CF instead? If you were serious about it, you would.
Edited by vm7mm on 08-28-10 03:44 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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mgrayar
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08-28-10 03:44 PM - Post#117488
In response to vm7mm
But, would you be pushing the cystic fibrosis issue if your daughter didn't have it? Probably not. If I recall correctly, you once told me to do the same.
Good question, but not really the point. Before CF, we were big on the Susan G. three day, but that was another life. I think you completely missed my point to Chico. Anytime he doesn't have a logic based response to someone who disagrees with him, he just calls them...racist, hate filled, bigoted, intolerant, brain washed, etc. It is a tactic used by those backed into a debate wall, so to say. The mentality is… If I cannot convince you, I will belittle you and say you are a bad person.
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vm7mm
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08-28-10 03:49 PM - Post#117489
In response to mgrayar
Isn't that what you are doing to him?
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