V-Girl
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10-21-10 01:15 PM - Post#120121
I pick my 3 year old up from Bolin at 10:45 every morning. This morning, we were heading out driving on Bolin School Road. As I neared the playground, two boys crawled out from under the fence and one ran across the street, reached his arm through the barbed wire fence and grabbed a ball. I waited while he ran back across the street and both boys crawled back under the fence. This was witnessed by a teacher. From what I could tell, she wasn't stopping them. In face, she held her hand up toward me as if telling me to stay put until they came back in.
I'm quite concerned that a child could leave school grounds and do something that could injure himself (tetanus anyone?) without being stopped by a teacher. And at that time of day, that road can get a little busy with pre K parents picking up their kids.
We won't be back until Monday. Would you report this? And who would you report it to -- send a note with my kid on Monday? Call the school?
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10-21-10 02:01 PM - Post#120122
In response to V-Girl
If they are in school the Dip-Tet should be up to date.
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10-21-10 05:22 PM - Post#120129
In response to V-Girl
We live along the alley that lines Vaughan Elementary. The school yard is all fenced in but every now and then there will be a child or two in the alley to retrieve a ball during recess. Teachers are on the playground and seem to watch from afar while they get the ball. It has always concerned me to have kids in the alley as people who use "this" alley drive rather fast. Also people backing out of the driveways can't see the children as all our drives are sloped.
I don't know the policy as our kids are grown, but I would report it.
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10-21-10 07:01 PM - Post#120132
In response to V-Girl
I'm not sure I would be too terribly concerned since the teacher was watching them but I'm not sure it was the best decision on the teacher's part. I'm not sure there's much point in sending a note with your child as the issue didn't concern his class or the program he is in. The usual process would be to speak with the teacher first but since you don't know the teacher, it would probably be best to address it to the principal. I typically use email since it is usually pretty hard to get anything but voicemail when you try to call a principal.
Edited by sco on 10-21-10 07:03 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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V-Girl
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10-22-10 10:39 PM - Post#120182
In response to sco
Thanks!
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vm7mm
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10-22-10 10:45 PM - Post#120185
In response to V-Girl
Probably report it to the superintendent, the fence was put there for a reason.
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Brewer
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10-23-10 10:51 AM - Post#120195
In response to vm7mm
The superintendant does not care unless they are old enough to play in HIS football stadium.
It should be noted however that nothing bad could ever happen to an AISD student. The board simply won't allow it. Sorta like Chuck Norris you know!
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10-23-10 02:27 PM - Post#120214
In response to Brewer
Quite rude of you Brewer.
Your negative attitude against the school district and district officials may be allowed but it is not appreciated by a majority of the readers of this forum.
The superintendant does not care unless they are old enough to play in HIS football stadium.
It should be noted however that nothing bad could ever happen to an AISD student. The board simply won't allow it. Sorta like Chuck Norris you know!
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Brewer
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10-23-10 02:53 PM - Post#120219
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Sarcasm, Do you speak it?
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10-23-10 03:38 PM - Post#120224
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Are YOU a majority of readers? Have you polled a majority of the readers? How do you come to that conclusion? While it may be true I would really like to know how YOU know. Thanks.
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sco
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10-23-10 04:48 PM - Post#120227
In response to vm7mm
Probably report it to the superintendent, the fence was put there for a reason.
I understand the inclination to go straight to the top but the superintendent's office is just going to tell you to talk to the teacher or the principal. It's always best to start closest to the problem.
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sco
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10-24-10 08:21 PM - Post#120255
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Are YOU a majority of readers? Have you polled a majority of the readers? How do you come to that conclusion? While it may be true I would really like to know how YOU know. Thanks.
I don't speak for anybody but myself but I find the snide comments to be inappropriate. If somebody has a specific complaint or disagreement it may be appropriate to post. Responding to every question or comment about anything having to do with a school with a snide comment impugning the character of the superintendent and/or school board is not.
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vm7mm
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10-24-10 08:50 PM - Post#120257
In response to sco
Probably report it to the superintendent, the fence was put there for a reason.
I understand the inclination to go straight to the top but the superintendent's office is just going to tell you to talk to the teacher or the principal. It's always best to start closest to the problem.
That would be like telling the rooster that there is a fox in the hen house.
Edited by vm7mm on 10-24-10 08:53 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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janes
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10-25-10 08:31 AM - Post#120273
In response to vm7mm
I don't see anything wrong with this as they were supervised by a teacher. They were just retrieving a ball - not trying to sneak away.
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vm7mm
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10-25-10 10:06 AM - Post#120277
In response to janes
Cars can do a lot of damage to a child running across the street and back.
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janes
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10-25-10 10:52 AM - Post#120284
In response to vm7mm
agreed - but the teacher was watching. Allen schools have up to 6th grade in elementary school. I have both a 5th grader and 6th grader and they both know how to cross a street.
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vm7mm
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10-25-10 12:38 PM - Post#120290
In response to janes
So, then the teacher could have watched the child getting run over by a vehicle.
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janes
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10-25-10 12:52 PM - Post#120292
In response to vm7mm
Perhaps you're missing my point. There was an adult supervising this activity. I'm assuming that these children were able to cross the street or the teacher would not have allowed them to cross the fence. Let's not be so quick to correct our schools and teachers. It's a job that I would never want because of the constant judgement and unreasonable expectations. I believe that he/she used common sense and that is fine with me.
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V-Girl
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10-25-10 01:18 PM - Post#120295
In response to janes
She was watching, but she wasn't nearby. She motioned for me to stop. And she watched as a child reached through a barbed-wire fence on someone's PRIVATE property to retrieve a ball. I don't think it was okay.
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sco
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10-25-10 02:24 PM - Post#120303
In response to V-Girl
Just to give you a little history, the land behind the school is owned by the Bolins. They are good friends and frequent visitors to the school and would likely not have an issue with a child reaching onto their property. There are balls in that field all the time. I wouldn't consider it a major issue but it maybe wasn't the best decision on the teacher's part. If you feel it was a problem just report it to the principal and she can tell the teachers to be more careful, to retrieve the balls themselves, or just wait until Mr. Bolin is out there and tosses them back across the street.
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vm7mm
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10-25-10 05:52 PM - Post#120326
In response to janes
This is my point, they were allowed off school property without supervision. I don't think they are allowed off school property even with supervision without a note (authorization) from the parent.
Edited by vm7mm on 10-25-10 08:53 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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mep110303
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10-26-10 09:30 AM - Post#120362
In response to vm7mm
These kids probably walk home on busier streets than this one daily. I'd be concerned if they were running across McDermott,but not Bolin Rd. What is the speed limit on that road? If I remember right, it is low. How old were they? I wouldn't want a kindergartener to do this but a sixth grader is definitely old enough to cross a neighborhood street. A teacher was close enough to be seen motioning at cars to stop. I think the teacher did a better job of watching the kids than a lot of parents do at home. I see kids riding bikes in the middle of the street daily.
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sco
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10-26-10 09:51 AM - Post#120364
In response to vm7mm
This is my point, they were allowed off school property without supervision. I don't think they are allowed off school property even with supervision without a note (authorization) from the parent.
I believe you are technically correct. I also believe that it's not that unusual for kids to be technically off of school property but within sight of a teacher fairly regularly. The Story and Reed playgrounds are next to a city park. I see school kids playing on the city equipment on occasion. Technically they are off of school property but their teacher was with them. Boon backs up to a greenbelt. I imagine kids fairly regularly step onto city park property to retrieve a ball. The only difference in this case is that they had to cross a road. As another poster commented, Bolin School road is not a well traveled road. It was only put in so that there is more than one exit from the school. There is virtually nobody on that road that isn't a parent headed to the school. Hence, my assessment that while maybe not the best choice I would not consider it a seriously major danger or an egregious infraction.
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10-31-10 08:47 PM - Post#120641
In response to sco
I can see why V-girl would be concerned, especially with the barbed-wire part. I would think that making your concern known is definitely appropriate.
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12-08-10 07:04 AM - Post#122113
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Is this what the world has come to? Retrieving a ball has been part of growing up for over a hundred years...and now it is being refereed to as leaving school property and 'the incident' referred to the Supt...talking about a nanny state...holy cow.
I'd suggest relaxing and putting on the movie Sandlot...kid's gonna retrieve their balls...
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