chf
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06-17-11 10:25 PM - Post#133607
In yet another brilliant move, our governor has vetoed a bill making it illegal to text while driving.
http://blogs.star-telegram.com/politex/2011/06/perry -vetoes-texting-while-dri ving-ban-22-other-bills.html
I swear this guy's brain is defective.
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lostyankee
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06-18-11 08:39 AM - Post#133611
In response to chf
I think you're being wildly presumptive... I'm not sure he HAS a brain.
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Jimi Ray Clapton
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06-18-11 08:57 AM - Post#133613
In response to lostyankee
Unbelievable. It may be a stretch - but I think the guy will have blood on his hands for this.
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Al C
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06-18-11 01:10 PM - Post#133619
In response to chf
Wow! Who'd have thought the the cell phone lobby was so powerful in Texas?
What a maroon.
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Jimi Ray Clapton
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06-18-11 02:26 PM - Post#133622
In response to Al C
I can not think of a reason why he would not allow something so common sense oriented to stick to the books. Is it a conservative approach where he thinks it's a slippery slope to goverment telling us what we can and can't do? Because that dog don't hunt in my book. Aside from the fact that he represents everything I abhor about U.S. politics... I just don't get it.
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chf
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06-18-11 03:03 PM - Post#133623
In response to Jimi Ray Clapton
This is definitely something that will come back to haunt him in any future primary or general election.
I would ask him if he supports the repeal of other driving laws that "micromanage" behavior, such as open container, seat belts, speed limits, etc.
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Maurice
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06-18-11 04:20 PM - Post#133626
In response to chf
This was a no-brainer, texting while driving should carry the same consequences as DUI, IMO.
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rtinallentx
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06-18-11 06:34 PM - Post#133630
In response to Maurice
So he signs a bill that says you can't talk on your hand held cell while driving through a school zone at 20mph (something that doesn't take you eyes off the road), but he won't sign a bill that says you can't drive 70mph in heavy traffic while texting (something that does take your eyes off the road)???
I see political ads in good hair's future with lists of name after name after name... The names of victims of texting and driving.
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csquare
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06-19-11 07:13 AM - Post#133635
In response to chf
I have not read the bill, nor am I expert in written law and its enforcement. That said, I think sometimes, a good sounding bill gets a veto because on paper it is flawed. It might either be too fuzzy to interpret or too difficult for boots on the ground to implement as written. I'm hoping he vetoed it so a better one can be passed. Meanwhile, I'm going to hold off on foaming at the mouth until I find out.
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pup
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06-19-11 07:48 AM - Post#133636
In response to csquare
Maybe he wanted us to have a sonogram before texting.
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chf
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06-19-11 05:25 PM - Post#133641
In response to csquare
According to the article, his reasoning was that it was "micromanaging the behavior of adults." Because of the many, many stupid moves on his part in the past, he has lost any benefit of the doubt, as far as I am concerned.
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carygold
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06-21-11 08:10 AM - Post#133685
In response to chf
If people can't text while driving we could lose thousand of jobs... 
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JasonKA
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06-21-11 08:26 AM - Post#133688
In response to carygold
People who cause accidents while distracted is already against the law. There is no need to list every single action that needs to be prohibited.
What about changing the radio, turning to yell at your brat in the back seat, applying makeup, eating, etc.
I agree with Perry on this one.
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Al C
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06-21-11 09:25 AM - Post#133689
In response to JasonKA
I'm on the fence on this one. On the one hand, texting while driving is stupid and dangerous. On the other hand, if this bill went through making it a crime, what would be next? What else would they start taking away from drivers?
And like someone else said ... making it illegal won't stop some people from doing it. You can't outlaw stupid.
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civicminded
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06-21-11 10:08 AM - Post#133693
In response to Al C
Haha, yeah we can't outlaw stupid. At least the commercial vehicle operators can't do it (per Presidential Directive last year). Too bad we didn't get it on this effort, but perhaps there are more details we don't have?
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carygold
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06-21-11 10:20 AM - Post#133694
In response to Al C
I think texting while driving should be a ticketing offense, for no other reason than to discourage people from risking peoples lives to read/send a text message and to help assign blame in accident situations. It is a hard one to enforce, but if the ticket amount is high enough say $200.00 it only takes a few people to get one of those tickets to get the message out.
I also think the same should apply for cell phone use that requires the loss of one hand on the steering wheel.
Studies shown that there is little difference between a drunk driver and one texting or in some cases... using a cell phone.
Here is one study.
I think Perry is an idiot for not seeing this as a real issue.
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mgrayar
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06-21-11 10:40 AM - Post#133699
In response to carygold
Your right about enforcement. It seems impossible for our police to enforce no-u-turn signs, or No-right-on-red, even though those offenses are blatantly obvious. I've seen cops watch 10 cars in a row make a right out of the VatF on red, not one got pulled over.
I'm not sure texting would be enforced in the slightest, and it would be a tough case to make without warrants to search phones and records. That would be very costly and a ton of desk work for the officer. They would likely only enforce in the case of an accident, which as Jason mentioned, they can already do so.
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carygold
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06-21-11 11:37 AM - Post#133700
In response to mgrayar
The reality is no can make someone do something they don't want to do. There are laws against murder, but that does not stop murder.
The best we can hope for is to make the fine large enough, that when someone is caught and ticketed, they tell people it cost them $200, or something like that for regular road ways and maybe $500 for school zones. Its a deterrence, nothing more. The texting issue will come up again when someone like Perry loses a loved one to someone texting and driving... then it will be important.
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civicminded
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06-21-11 11:45 AM - Post#133701
In response to carygold
Sadly enough, you're right that it often takes a disaster close to home for a different viewpoint to sink in. He's probably gonna be President, then maybe he'll do it then??  
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carygold
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06-21-11 12:53 PM - Post#133703
In response to civicminded
Sadly enough, you're right that it often takes a disaster close to home for a different viewpoint to sink in. He's probably gonna be President, then maybe he'll do it then??
 President??
I don't think America is ready for another Texan in the White House at this point.
I don't think Perry is going to run either, unless the economy keeps slipping.
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