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10-27-11 02:33 AM - Post#141219
I know we have one year until the 2012 election and a lot of things can happen between now and then, but I think the trend is set and three things have happened that make me say that the election outcome, barring some odd event, is pretty much set.
First, according to several sources, Wall Street has donated more money to the Obama campaign than to any Presidential campaign in history. I know there is no GOP candidate yet, but it appears Wall Street has placed its bet.
Second, are comments by Pat Robertson of the 700 Club, remember this is the man that said God sent a hurricane to destroy George H.W. Bush’s home in Connecticut because of his lack of support for Israel. Pat Robertson is asking the GOP candidates to not move so far to the right and to stop saying crazy things. Or as Jon Stewart said, the first rule of “Right Club” is to not talk about “Right Club.”
With Cain’s manager smoking in a Cain’s advertisement and Rick Perry revisiting the “Birther” topic it appears the only legitimate candidate is Mitt Romney, but he has more stories than Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm, except Romney keeps changing the ending.
With several states fighting to be first on the GOP Primary Circuit unless someone new jumps into the race in the next few days the GOP field of candidates is pretty much set.
Third, independents, the ones that select the President, say by 65% they favor taxing the rich to help pay America's debts, 28% oppose.
My prediction is Obama will win and he will win by a greater number of votes then he had against McCain. I’m not sure if he will do better in the Electoral College, but I think the total number of votes for Obama will be higher in 2012.
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Jimi Ray Clapton
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10-27-11 07:25 AM - Post#141221
In response to carygold
Fair enough, Cary. I will hold you to these predictions.
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10-27-11 07:27 AM - Post#141222
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Wall Street has donated more money to the Obama campaign than to any Presidential campaign in history.
I predict that when the 99% find out that Obama is a bought and paid for 1%'er, he'll lose in a landslide.
Can the Occupy Flea Baggers be any more stupid and hypocritical? To a man, they support the guy that embodies what they are protesting.
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10-27-11 07:53 AM - Post#141225
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To a man, they support the guy that embodies what they are protesting.
I don't understand "To a man". What do you mean?
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10-27-11 08:02 AM - Post#141226
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I think it's way too early, but the way things are going, it's very plausible that Obama may get his second term. But I think it is very plausible that the Republicans my gain more seats in the Senate and House...Kind of the Clinton second term. If the Republicans can't win the executive branch, then the next best thing that can happen is the Democrats maintain the executive branch with the Republicans running the house.
This encourages both parties to move to the middle, and work through some more sensible solutions to the issues. Much needed give and take...
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10-27-11 08:25 AM - Post#141228
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It's pretty self explanatory.
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10-27-11 09:12 AM - Post#141230
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The only republican with a chance to win this election is Romney - he's moderate enough to bring in the independent voters and smooth enough to convince people that he's the better choice.
I'd be more concerned about the independent voter than the right-wing evangelical nutbag crowd that Cain and Perry pander to.
It's a damn shame that Ron Paul is so ignored, but it's reality. People long for change but they are too afraid to move away from the status quo to actually go for it.
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10-27-11 09:15 AM - Post#141232
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I think it will be Romney getting the nomination too.
Perry is showing himself to be even a bigger idiot than I realized him to be. He's an embarrassment to Texas.
I just don't see how Cain can maintain.
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10-27-11 09:17 AM - Post#141233
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I think it will be interesting to see what happens in Congress in 2012. The TEA Party polls are in general around a 25% approval rating. So, if the GOP can hold the house it might not be by much.
The GOP needs 4 seats in the Senate to take the majority and most of this cycles Senate seats that are up for grabs are Democrat seats. Again, it all depends on the TEA Party, who appear to the general public to be nothing more than obstructionists with a right winged social agenda.
The challenge for the GOP will be if the lack of approval for the TEA Party will translate into more Democratic votes in the main election. The other challenge is if Obama can rally the troops, otherwise the house split may remain the same only in reverse order, he could win the house only to loose the Senate. Which means 4 more years of dead locked politics.
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10-27-11 09:41 AM - Post#141235
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To a man, they support the guy that embodies what they are protesting.
Reading this again 3 more times didn't work.
Maybe someone else can explain to me what you meant?
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10-27-11 09:55 AM - Post#141237
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http://www.audioenglish.net/dictionary/to_a_man.htm
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10-27-11 10:17 AM - Post#141242
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Thanks. I've never heard that.
Are the "Occupiers" generally Obama supporters?
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10-27-11 11:06 AM - Post#141245
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Probably a bit more than "generally". I would put it in the 90% range or better.
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10-27-11 11:15 AM - Post#141246
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I did not get that impression at all - but I don't doubt that you may be correct.
Unfortunately, the more "informed" occupiers are not the majority... but by the chatter that I pay attention to on FB... *most* of the folks that align themselves or who are sympathetic to this cause do have a clue and are more or less like me... seeing Obama as just barely the lesser of two evils.
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10-27-11 12:15 PM - Post#141249
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That would still be considered an Obama supporter, even if you need to hold you nose while you vote for him. The majority you speak of though, most definitely Obama supporters.
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10-27-11 01:01 PM - Post#141253
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I see what you're saying - but I don't look at the distinction quite the same way. With the group I'm speaking of - a group who see Obama aa a willing participant in a broken political system and as, in a sense, part of "the problem" - it's not so black and white. It's hard not to talk in generalities... I'm just trying to express an idea with you.
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04-25-12 08:13 AM - Post#148403
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I wanted to save this prediction...before the Web deleted it.
As people post that Wallstreet is backing Obama, I think this is becoming more relevant.
If CEO's increased their pay at the same rate as Average Americans
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04-25-12 08:17 AM - Post#148404
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I wanted to save this prediction...before the Web deleted it.
As people post that Wallstreet is backing Obama, I think this is becoming more relevant.
Which is all the more reason Ron Paul needs to be considered and voted in...
Sure, the media and its herd of followers would dispute that in a heartbeat. But, again, they're a herd of people who can't/won't/don't think for themselves and require someone else to do it for them...
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Maringa
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04-25-12 11:14 AM - Post#148416
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My guess at this time is that Obama will win re-election, and that the Republicans will win Senate majority (though very slight), and that the House majority will remain with the Republicans as well.
A lot of good things can happen from that....I look to where Clinton had executive, and Republicans had both Senate/House. A lot of good compromises from both sides, and somewhat better fiscal/bureaucratic sanity. It may have been contentious, but nobody's (left & right) radical ideals/efforts had a chance of being approved.
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04-25-12 11:45 AM - Post#148419
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At this point in time, considering the advantage Republicans have with Citizens United and the fact Saudi Arabia can dump millions of private dollars into the Republican coffers, it's going to be close. A lot can happen between now and election day, but if Republicans and their rowdy Tea Party cousins keep dragging women back to the subservient 50's with their war on contraception, abortion and fair pay, Obama will have a clear advantage in the female and youth crowd. Romney is already sprinting toward the center now that primaries are all but done for him. This will be an interesting election considering the economy is improving, the wars are drawing down somewhat and the Tea Party is potentially losing ground due to their bait and switch tactics.
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