Note the skin color and background of these men, not a Democrat amongst them.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57424900 /fbi-n...

• MissingChico Said:

I'd say you are the pot calling the kettle black, which leads me to believe you have no credibility with your intent on posting this. "Note the skin color. Not a democrat amongst them." Really?

I see the silliness going on with your posts and have refrained from responding to most (not all) of them. This post, however, is the icing on the cake in terms of silliness...

we all know Wikipedia is the Internet gospel.

It's time you all come to grips with the extreme element on your side of the spectrum. I'm sure you all know my statement has a 98% chance of being correct, yet you deflect. History is my guide. The overwhelming majority of terrorist attacks in this country has been at the hands of White Republicans. The endless gun rhetoric, love of all things war and the unrelenting spoon feeding of paranoia by the right wing media puts your fringe at risk of becoming extremists. Agree or not, history will again play out in my favor.

Funny you mention eco-terrorists. When I lived in Washington State ELF torched a bunch of logging trucks at one of logging sites. Environmentalists say that did more damage to the environment that hundreds of years of logging would have done. In Maryland they torched a brand new development of homes to "save the earth". Again... how good was that for the environment. An extremist idiot will not have to search hard to find their own justification to cause chaos, death, and destruction.

To say you Jumped the gun on that one is not really an apology in my opinion. You stereotyped the white guys as Republican simply because they were terrorists. Are all Hispanics connected to the cartel?

Agreed. Am I the only one that learned as a kid to not judge a book by its cover? The 5 guys are terrorists. Plain and simple. It doesn't matter what color they are or their political affiliation.

• Jeremy Said:

Hmm, then we're two of the most unique individuals on the forum who were taught well. Apparently, others were taught to judge someone by their skin color and call them Republican terrorists because they're...*gasp* WHITE!

I still look for the day a few on the forum can start and handle a decent conversation sans the "Poor, poor me, I'm so disadvantaged" mentality.

• cp Said:

CP, your posts get less intelligent every time you hit enter. I defend, support, uplift and do pretty much anything I can to help raise people from the often unfair situations they're in. There's a possibility I own a few more homes than most and I'm prepared to retire where I can do the most good. So if that's "Poor poor me" than you must be twisted at the root. I never said I was poor, minority, ex-con, or any other such thing. I've made some excellent decisions in my lifetime and I'm willing to help others do the same. I've seen racism, hatred, bigotry from those who honestly believed I went along with this narrow minded mindset. Those who know me well, know all too well how incorrect that would be. Oh and let there be no mistake, I can turn my back on anyone who is intentionally stupid and fights to remain that way.

We'll probably learn that they have participated in the Occupy protests.

Ayers was not progressive, he was a terrorist.

Everyone knows US terrorists are right wing nut jobs.

The latest attempted bombers are left wing nut jobs. Which makes one of your statements an outright lie.

McVeigh was in the 90's...times have changed. Lefties are the terrorists again.

Fail.

Try again.

You haven't proven anything other than your ideology trumps reality.

One of the leftie loons even had his name on Occupy Cleveland's warehouse lease.

Surely you don't consider that the work of a right winger?

Anyway, you know who your next 5 Professors will be, it isn't a total washout for the left and this time, no bombs went off and no one died.

Does this do anything for you? A quiet observer passed this on and I thought it applied nicely.

Not Fox News

The right wing nut jobs are not buying fake bombs from the FBI.

The left wing guys leasing property for Occupy Cleveland are.

And Ayers is pretty much as left as they come. History proves that. You can't change undeniable fact either, no matter how much you want to project your personal beliefs onto someone else.

The Occupy movement has sought to distance itself from the suspects since their arrest last week and says they were affiliated with Occupy Cleveland but didn't represent it or its non-violent philosophy. Zitt said the group isn't in favor of violent response and would have expelled the suspects if the group had learned they were considering acts that could be deemed terrorism.

"These people participated in aspects of the movement, but once we discovered what was going on we decided they could not be part of it," Zitt said. "I wish we had learned earlier."

He said Occupy Cleveland group leaders ousted another member late last week because he threatened and struck someone he believed had information about the alleged bombing plot.

"We threw him out, and as he left the building he smashed a window and sliced bike tires," Zitt said. "He's not the kind of person we want involved with our group."

http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/o h_cuy...

"Chaos and anarchy continues to reign at the various "Occupy Wall Street" sites around the country, where a motley crew of people have gathered to create their own autonomous and, by all accounts, dysfunctional societies.

According to Oakland Tribune, "Occupy Oakland" has devolved into something resembling "Lord of the Flies," after the classic novel and movie in which a group of British school children are stranded on a desert island and proceed to turn on one another. In this case a group described as "bullies, the mentally ill, drunks, thugs and anarchists" have turned the encampment into something resembling a state of nature, where the strong terrorize the weak, and where ad hoc rule making has caused a combination of anarchy and oppression.

At "Occupy Baltimore" rape victims are being urged to not report their attackers to the police, but rather to a "security committee" that will investigate the incident and, if necessary, provide "counseling" to the perpetrator. Speaking of rapes, one is reported to have occurred at "Occupy Cleveland" when a 19-year-old student was ordered to share a tent with a man named "Leland" who then, it is alleged, sexually assaulted her. The matter was not reported to law enforcement until two days later when the girl related the incident to a professor.

A participant of "Occupy Seattle" has been arrested for exposing himself to young children at least five times. In one instance, he approached a pair of 13-year-olds playing at a public park and "performed a lewd act."
source: Yahoo news

Then there were very few true liberals in history. Definitely not nearly half of America.

You didn't get my point.

You still didn't get my point Cary. How many people that identify themselves as liberals actual meet your definition? Go back and read your posts.

and yet these bozos were radical leftists, and nothing you spin about will change that fact.

Look at it this way, the only thing separating these guys and guys like McVeigh is their end of the ideology. Your premise that no one on the left has violent tendencies is absurd in the extreme.

• lostyankee Said:

Let me say it this way. People on the left that have the ideology "of the left" are not killers. People that are killers may adopt a cause, like Occupy Wall Street but they are not true believers or they would not attempt to blow people up. In the same way a real christian would not put a bullet into a Doctors head, because the doctor is listed as an abortion doctor. A real Christian would pray for God to change the doctors heart, that is their ideology, not using bullets.

But those on the violent right truly believe, that one day they will need to kill fellow American's for god and country, it is a part of the ideology, Guns, Gun licenses, trucks full of fertilizer, hidden Militia's. They are not much different than members of the old KKK. The violence is part of their ideology.

No Cary, I am asking a simple question. You have an idealistic definition of liberals that does not fit the type of people that identify themselves as liberals today.

Your ability to talk in circles is impressive, but tiring.

Wow... you really are naive Cary... I had no idea until now...

Che Guevera
Castro
Lenin
Stalin

Lefties and killers just the same.