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mspam3 
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05-01-12 05:01 PM - Post#148746    

We have 2 areas where ants march back and forth on the concrete. They aren't fire ants, they are much smaller. Is there a organic way to get rid of them and their nests? I just don't want the dog to get into any pesticides. Thanks in advance!

 
cp 
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05-01-12 06:42 PM - Post#148755    
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  • mspam3 Said:
We have 2 areas where ants march back and forth on the concrete. They aren't fire ants, they are much smaller. Is there a organic way to get rid of them and their nests? I just don't want the dog to get into any pesticides. Thanks in advance!



I'd love to know, as well, since the ants go marching one by one, hoorah!, on my sidewalks too. It's very puzzling since I've used whatever ant killer was here when we moved in. I've applied it a few times, even spraying the ants away with the nozzle. Still, they furiously return...
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denisew 
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05-02-12 07:15 AM - Post#148790    
    In response to cp

I don't have a problem with regular ants, but had a fire ant problem and used the Gardenville Anti-Fuego on the mounds - 1/2 cup per gallon of water as a drench and it got rid of the fire ants. Unless they are getting into your house, they should not be a problem. Because of the mild winter we had, there will be a lot more bugs this season. If the ants are getting into your house, then you could put some DE (Diatomaceous Earth) around your foundation. I even sprinkle a little in the weep holes. It has to be applied after your sprinklers run or after a rain, but the little bits of DE cut into the bodies of crawling insects to help keep them out. Broadcasting a fire ant bait over the property will also help (controls fire ants).

 
BrianGallimore 
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05-02-12 09:13 AM - Post#148805    
    In response to denisew

I spot treat ant problems by spraying them with orange oil mixture. I try to leave them alone whenever possible (except the fire ants). They are there for a reason, so I try to let nature do its thing.
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denisew 
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05-02-12 10:31 AM - Post#148812    
    In response to BrianGallimore

Yep. I agree that the regular ants are there for a reason and unless they are getting in your house, they can be left alone. But, make sure you don't have fire ants. Those need to be treated as described above.

 
KOKJ 
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05-03-12 02:01 AM - Post#148927    
    In response to denisew

I have been seeing what I believe to be "crazy ants." Does anyone else have these on their property? They can swarm like fire ants when disturbed but they don't bite. They're annoying just because of their presence. They move fast, slow and erratically.


 
Don4 
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05-03-12 07:49 AM - Post#148931    
    In response to KOKJ

Crazy Ants

They've been around for a while, but probably more prevalent since the past winter was mild.
-Don


 
denisew 
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05-03-12 10:52 AM - Post#148945    
    In response to Don4

The last time I asked about these, they haven't made it this far north . . . yet.

 
acs815 
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05-03-12 03:53 PM - Post#148959    
    In response to mspam3

A friend of mine swears by just pouring a pot of boiling water into the nest. I haven't tried it, but she does it and it seems to work for her.

 
denisew 
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05-04-12 06:34 AM - Post#148985    
    In response to acs815

Yes, that will kill some of the ants, but not all. I have tried it on the mounds I had my front yard. The ones that survive move all the dead bodies to the top of the mound and then recreate the mound even after multiple drenchings with boiling water. The orange oil mixed with all the other stuff in the Anti-Fuego is what finally did it for my fire ant problem.
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rock761 
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05-04-12 10:55 AM - Post#148999    
    In response to denisew

Any suggestions for getting rid of the little tiny sugar ants that have suddenly appeared in my kitchen/upstairs bath (both on the same outside wall of our house)? We put down ant killer in the yard and I think it drove them in?

 
denisew 
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05-04-12 11:01 AM - Post#149002    
    In response to rock761

Try the DE around your foundation and in the weep holes of the brick. If you know where their mound is at you could also dust that real well with the DE. A drench on the mound with some orange oil might help. If you can figure out where they are getting in, apply more DE there too.

 
kathy 
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05-04-12 11:24 AM - Post#149004    
    In response to denisew

I have heard putting grits on the mound works ,the ants eat the the grits and poof no more ants.

 
denisew 
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05-04-12 02:07 PM - Post#149013    
    In response to kathy

That doesn't work. Here is documentation I found from TAMU: "Grits and Malt-O-Meal: "Applying instant grits or Malt-O-meal to dry soil around mounds is reported to have impressive results" (Garrett, H. 1993. page 140 in Howard Garrett's Texas Organic Gardening Book, Gulf Publishing Company, Houston, Texas, 245 pp.). In theory, the ants eat the grits which then swell and rupture the ants' stomachs. In fact, only the last stage of the developing fire ant is known to ingest solid food. All other life stages feed only on liquids, sugary solutions or greasy materials. Fire ant workers are physically incapable of ingesting solid food particles larger than 1.0 μm diameter in size (J. M. Petti, 1997. Proceedings of the 1997 Imported Fire Ant Research Conference). Note: This method has not been shown to control fire ants."

http://fireant.tamu.edu/materials/factsheets_ pubs/...

Now, this specifically talks about using it for fire ants, but I would think it would be the same for just about any ant.

 
rock761 
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05-04-12 05:44 PM - Post#149022    
    In response to denisew

I can't find the mound. I am thinking it's in the wall. Any recomendation for an inside treatment.

 
denisew 
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05-05-12 11:13 AM - Post#149041    
    In response to rock761

You might need to contact a pest control expert if they are in your wall. There is some stuff they can put in where your electrical outlets are located that will help control those ants.

 
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