cp
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05-01-12 07:05 PM - Post#148759
"Around this time of year, I sometimes hear from parents who have been appalled to learn that the child they sent away to college to become educated has instead been indoctrinated with the creed of the left. They often ask if I can suggest something to have their offspring read over the summer, in order to counteract this indoctrination."
Continue reading: http://lewrockwell.com/sowell/sowell86.1.html
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lostyankee
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05-01-12 08:10 PM - Post#148766
In response to cp
You can't have a rational argument with some on this board about race. I'm sure someone will call Sowell an Uncle Tom.
Just as there are legitimate racial issues, there are fanatics that realize as long as racial issues are perceived to be a problem, they will retain fame and power, a la Sharpton and Jackson. Look how Cosby has been vilified by other prominent African Americans. My dad lives in the "Rust Belt" and Cosby was invited to attend a church conference but was "uninvited" by the black church es in the area.
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MissingChico
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05-02-12 07:42 AM - Post#148794
In response to lostyankee
Until racism is simply beyond us, I choose to stand with the weak, poor and discriminated. Blacks make up roughly 15% of our population and yet are 65% of our prison population in many regions. Laws have been written that disproportionately affect minority populations in this country. Blacks are proven innocent nearly weekly in this area after many years in prison because it has been simply easier to look at a black man in this country and assume he could commit a crime. It's hard coded in our DNA after years of indoctrinated hate and suppression.
Kids aren't being indoctrinated in college, they're just getting an education, learning to think on their own and not simply believing the words of their parents without question. Some parents have difficulty accepting their child has their own thought process.
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cp
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05-02-12 07:48 AM - Post#148796
In response to MissingChico
Until racism is simply beyond us, I choose to stand with the weak, poor and discriminated. Blacks make up roughly 15% of our population and yet are 65% of our prison population in many regions. Laws have been written that disproportionately affect minority populations in this country. Blacks are proven innocent nearly weekly in this area after many years in prison because it has been simply easier to look at a black man in this country and assume he could commit a crime. It's hard coded in our DNA after years of indoctrinated hate and suppression.
Kids aren't being indoctrinated in college, they're just getting an education, learning to think on their own and not simply believing the words of their parents without question. Some parents have difficulty accepting their child has their own thought process.
The joke of the day has just been posted above.
Sersiously, you are are NO DIFFERENT than the very people you point your fingers at. Admit it, Chico. You've been found; you aren't missing any more...
It's your mentality that keep the pendullum swinging the other way. And until you can come to grips with that, the mudslinging will continue.
When will you stop breastfeeding from the nonsense your government continues to feed you?
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MissingChico
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05-02-12 01:55 PM - Post#148864
In response to cp
Until racism is simply beyond us, I choose to stand with the weak, poor and discriminated. Blacks make up roughly 15% of our population and yet are 65% of our prison population in many regions. Laws have been written that disproportionately affect minority populations in this country. Blacks are proven innocent nearly weekly in this area after many years in prison because it has been simply easier to look at a black man in this country and assume he could commit a crime. It's hard coded in our DNA after years of indoctrinated hate and suppression.
Kids aren't being indoctrinated in college, they're just getting an education, learning to think on their own and not simply believing the words of their parents without question. Some parents have difficulty accepting their child has their own thought process.
The joke of the day has just been posted above.
Sersiously, you are are NO DIFFERENT than the very people you point your fingers at. Admit it, Chico. You've been found; you aren't missing any more...
It's your mentality that keep the pendullum swinging the other way. And until you can come to grips with that, the mudslinging will continue.
When will you stop breastfeeding from the nonsense your government continues to feed you?
Hey Genius, WE are the government. I haven't been unemployed more than a week since age 16. I haven't breastfed on anything for a very very long time. You and I are this government and as long as you need a constant new boogie man the world will remain the mess it is. I honestly feel for people like yourself who cannot be bothered to walk in the shoes of someone else. It's no wonder impotence is so much more prevalent among you stiff shirt TeaPubs.
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Edited by MissingChico on 05-02-12 01:56 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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cp
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05-02-12 02:04 PM - Post#148868
In response to MissingChico
Until racism is simply beyond us, I choose to stand with the weak, poor and discriminated. Blacks make up roughly 15% of our population and yet are 65% of our prison population in many regions. Laws have been written that disproportionately affect minority populations in this country. Blacks are proven innocent nearly weekly in this area after many years in prison because it has been simply easier to look at a black man in this country and assume he could commit a crime. It's hard coded in our DNA after years of indoctrinated hate and suppression.
Kids aren't being indoctrinated in college, they're just getting an education, learning to think on their own and not simply believing the words of their parents without question. Some parents have difficulty accepting their child has their own thought process.
The joke of the day has just been posted above.
Sersiously, you are are NO DIFFERENT than the very people you point your fingers at. Admit it, Chico. You've been found; you aren't missing any more...
It's your mentality that keep the pendullum swinging the other way. And until you can come to grips with that, the mudslinging will continue.
When will you stop breastfeeding from the nonsense your government continues to feed you?
Hey Genius, WE are the government. I haven't been unemployed more than a week since age 16. I haven't breastfed on anything for a very very long time. You and I are this government and as long as you need a constant new boogie man the world will remain the mess it is. I honestly feel for people like yourself who cannot be bothered to walk in the shoes of someone else. It's no wonder impotence is so much more prevalent among you stiff shirt TeaPubs.
If we are the government, then the problems currently in place wouldn't be happening.
As for your attempt at a derrogatory comment (hence "You stiff shirt TeaPubs), check yourself again. I don't identify with them since I can make decisions on my own (especially with regard to issues of faith and morale) and think for myself what's best for me. It appears you haven't quite grasped that concept since you're too busy feeling sorry for the "Woe is me" crowd.
Sorry, buddy. I'm not in the same boat with you and refuse to climb aboard it.
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MissingChico
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05-02-12 02:31 PM - Post#148886
In response to cp
Until racism is simply beyond us, I choose to stand with the weak, poor and discriminated. Blacks make up roughly 15% of our population and yet are 65% of our prison population in many regions. Laws have been written that disproportionately affect minority populations in this country. Blacks are proven innocent nearly weekly in this area after many years in prison because it has been simply easier to look at a black man in this country and assume he could commit a crime. It's hard coded in our DNA after years of indoctrinated hate and suppression.
Kids aren't being indoctrinated in college, they're just getting an education, learning to think on their own and not simply believing the words of their parents without question. Some parents have difficulty accepting their child has their own thought process.
The joke of the day has just been posted above.
Sersiously, you are are NO DIFFERENT than the very people you point your fingers at. Admit it, Chico. You've been found; you aren't missing any more...
It's your mentality that keep the pendullum swinging the other way. And until you can come to grips with that, the mudslinging will continue.
When will you stop breastfeeding from the nonsense your government continues to feed you?
Hey Genius, WE are the government. I haven't been unemployed more than a week since age 16. I haven't breastfed on anything for a very very long time. You and I are this government and as long as you need a constant new boogie man the world will remain the mess it is. I honestly feel for people like yourself who cannot be bothered to walk in the shoes of someone else. It's no wonder impotence is so much more prevalent among you stiff shirt TeaPubs.
If we are the government, then the problems currently in place wouldn't be happening.
As for your attempt at a derrogatory comment (hence "You stiff shirt TeaPubs), check yourself again. I don't identify with them since I can make decisions on my own (especially with regard to issues of faith and morale) and think for myself what's best for me. It appears you haven't quite grasped that concept since you're too busy feeling sorry for the "Woe is me" crowd.
Sorry, buddy. I'm not in the same boat with you and refuse to climb aboard it.
So you're a one man / woman political party. I've actually met similar people who would step over a homeless person to get into church. If that's your thing, so be it.
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cp
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05-02-12 02:53 PM - Post#148890
In response to MissingChico
Until racism is simply beyond us, I choose to stand with the weak, poor and discriminated. Blacks make up roughly 15% of our population and yet are 65% of our prison population in many regions. Laws have been written that disproportionately affect minority populations in this country. Blacks are proven innocent nearly weekly in this area after many years in prison because it has been simply easier to look at a black man in this country and assume he could commit a crime. It's hard coded in our DNA after years of indoctrinated hate and suppression.
Kids aren't being indoctrinated in college, they're just getting an education, learning to think on their own and not simply believing the words of their parents without question. Some parents have difficulty accepting their child has their own thought process.
The joke of the day has just been posted above.
Sersiously, you are are NO DIFFERENT than the very people you point your fingers at. Admit it, Chico. You've been found; you aren't missing any more...
It's your mentality that keep the pendullum swinging the other way. And until you can come to grips with that, the mudslinging will continue.
When will you stop breastfeeding from the nonsense your government continues to feed you?
Hey Genius, WE are the government. I haven't been unemployed more than a week since age 16. I haven't breastfed on anything for a very very long time. You and I are this government and as long as you need a constant new boogie man the world will remain the mess it is. I honestly feel for people like yourself who cannot be bothered to walk in the shoes of someone else. It's no wonder impotence is so much more prevalent among you stiff shirt TeaPubs.
If we are the government, then the problems currently in place wouldn't be happening.
As for your attempt at a derrogatory comment (hence "You stiff shirt TeaPubs), check yourself again. I don't identify with them since I can make decisions on my own (especially with regard to issues of faith and morale) and think for myself what's best for me. It appears you haven't quite grasped that concept since you're too busy feeling sorry for the "Woe is me" crowd.
Sorry, buddy. I'm not in the same boat with you and refuse to climb aboard it.
So you're a one man / woman political party. I've actually met similar people who would step over a homeless person to get into church. If that's your thing, so be it.
Good thing, for your own knowledge, I'm not of the same caliber as those your describe.
It's one thing to live homelessly; I've gone out and talked to them and fed them in downtown a number of times. It's another to live in a home soaking up all the benefits the government provides, living high on the hog of government-controlled freedom.
Like Thomas Jefferson so-well penned, "A government big enough to give you everything you need, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have...." So, for all the social programs designed for certain classes of people can just as easliy be taken away from them as they were provided to them. And it goes from there.
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lostyankee
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05-02-12 06:58 PM - Post#148917
In response to MissingChico
I'll stand with them also. I just refuse to be made a fool by those who choose to perpetuate myths.
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carygold
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05-03-12 09:03 AM - Post#148935
In response to cp
"Around this time of year, I sometimes hear from parents who have been appalled to learn that the child they sent away to college to become educated has instead been indoctrinated with the creed of the left. They often ask if I can suggest something to have their offspring read over the summer, in order to counteract this indoctrination."
Continue reading: http://lewrockwell.com/sowell/sowell86.1.html
This is so much nonsense... colleges don't indoctrinate people to the left, that's pure BS.
My wife and I both work in and around University level education for over a decade. The fact is many kids come to college with young, idealist thinking about how the world should work.
Yes, many professors are left leaning, and many are independent, and I know several that are die hard Republicans.
Anytime someone can get film of a Professor showing his liberalism, its assumed that they are all that way, its just nonsense.
Its the kids that are idealistic, it always has been the kids, and it doesn't matter which country they are students in, they tend to be liberal thinking.Even the Hard Republican Business students can be more liberal than most republicans.
The GOP always push's to hate Education, yet many GOP politician's have several degrees:
Mitt Romney has 2 degrees from Harvard
George HW Bush - Yale
George Bush - Yale and Harvard
Ron Paul - Duke
Rick Santorum - Penn State, Uni of Pittsburgh
Dr. Newt Gingrich - Emory (BA, MA) Tulane U. (PhD)
Kay Bailey Hutchison - University of Texas
Paul Ryan - Miami University (Ohio)
Rick Perry - Texas A&M
John Boehner - Xavier University
Sam Johnson - Southern Methodist University
Ralph Hall - Texas Christian University, University of Texas, and Southern Methodist University
Don't get suckered in by the Liberal University indoctrination theory and scam, if it were true there would be no Republicans.
If CEO's increased their pay at the same rate as Average Americans
their pay would average $1,384,890 not $10,621,000 |
Edited by carygold on 05-03-12 09:15 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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cp
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05-03-12 09:46 AM - Post#148936
In response to carygold
"Around this time of year, I sometimes hear from parents who have been appalled to learn that the child they sent away to college to become educated has instead been indoctrinated with the creed of the left. They often ask if I can suggest something to have their offspring read over the summer, in order to counteract this indoctrination."
Continue reading: http://lewrockwell.com/sowell/sowell86.1.html
This is so much nonsense... colleges don't indoctrinate people to the left, that's pure BS.
My wife and I both work in and around University level education for over a decade. The fact is many kids come to college with young, idealist thinking about how the world should work.
Yes, many professors are left leaning, and many are independent, and I know several that are die hard Republicans.
Anytime someone can get film of a Professor showing his liberalism, its assumed that they are all that way, its just nonsense.
Its the kids that are idealistic, it always has been the kids, and it doesn't matter which country they are students in, they tend to be liberal thinking.Even the Hard Republican Business students can be more liberal than most republicans.
The GOP always push's to hate Education, yet many GOP politician's have several degrees:
Mitt Romney has 2 degrees from Harvard
George HW Bush - Yale
George Bush - Yale and Harvard
Ron Paul - Duke
Rick Santorum - Penn State, Uni of Pittsburgh
Dr. Newt Gingrich - Emory (BA, MA) Tulane U. (PhD)
Kay Bailey Hutchison - University of Texas
Paul Ryan - Miami University (Ohio)
Rick Perry - Texas A&M
John Boehner - Xavier University
Sam Johnson - Southern Methodist University
Ralph Hall - Texas Christian University, University of Texas, and Southern Methodist University
Don't get suckered in by the Liberal University indoctrination theory and scam, if it were true there would be no Republicans.
I would agree with you that kids do seem to have a more liberal leaning than their parents. Where I think the problems begin is just how far, either left, right, or center, the kids choose to take the path of. Any decent human being would have an open enough mind to see all possible sides to any story, situation, or political or religious ideology. Are some or most professors' motives to persuade his/her audience to lean toward their mindset or merely present another view? It's been a while since I've been in a college classroom. Times have changed, and people may have too.
As for the GOP hating education, I'm not so sure I'd take it that far. Perhaps once they realized what they were taught and learned, compare it to what's going on these days, they probably see some flaws somewhere in the process. Many people do, regardless of degree level and where it was attained.
On another note, somewhat off topic: the best way to figure out which candidate stands for what is to dive deep into reasearching their voting record, and from there dig even deeper on what it is they either voted for or against. I think many of us are guilty of knee-jerk reactions when we hear something. Only until we actually research for ourselves will we continue to look like unintelligent beings, regardless of which of the 3 sides of the aisle one stands on...
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carygold
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05-03-12 10:52 AM - Post#148946
In response to cp
The GOP does not hate education, but they push their followers to hate or mistrust education.
Even on this forum someone once said common sense is better than an education. I don't think so, Tim.
I think professors are people too. They come in all races, although more and more they are Chinese and Indian, they are all religions, they are from all political leanings, some are good, some not as good and some are simply amazing.
Our American University's are thought to be the best in the world and a US education is globally worth its weight in gold 10 times over.
The GOP idea of liberal university indoctrination is a way to get people to not trust science, and data collected by scientists. Its a way to denounce information brought by educated people. But try and find one leading politician or one business leader that does not have a college degree, unless they dropped out to start companies like Dell, Facebook or Microsoft.
Even Fox News has a program called "the Education Scam." Where they try and tell kids an education is a waste of money... "just look at Bill Gates," they say. Really, Bill Gate's as the poster child for no college? Talking about leaving out part of the story.
80% of the job openings today are for college degree jobs, 80% of those unemployed don't have any college. It's just common sense that college is the future of employment opportunities.
Who is Goldman Sach's hiring, or Intel, or Facebook or Google or who was Bill Gates hiring? I would bet its young people from all over the world with one or more college degrees.
If CEO's increased their pay at the same rate as Average Americans
their pay would average $1,384,890 not $10,621,000 |
Edited by carygold on 05-03-12 10:54 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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