KOKJ
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05-03-12 01:58 AM - Post#148926
I'm just posting this to see if any of you guys and gals have heard anything from your kids. I have 2 nephews that attend the Lowery Freshman Center and they've claimed there is a gang problem. I laughed and asked "are you kidding me? A gang problem? In Allen? My Allen?" They responded with "Yes! We're serious!" I also heard that last week, several of these "gang members" were taken away to the Dillard Center for some reason. I'm really not clear on any of it, but am just wondering if any of you have heard anything similar or not. Of course, if there is a gang problem, I hope all of Allen does everything possible to squelch it.
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denisew
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05-03-12 10:55 AM - Post#148947
In response to KOKJ
Yes, there is a gang problem. There have been places through Allen that have been "tagged" by gangs with their symbols - graffiti. I have heard of fights at the high school too. I was talking to a teen last week and he said there were five fights at the high school that day. Not sure if they were gang related though, but wouldn't surprise me. Yes, AISD is doing what they can to keep those issues under control.
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vm7mm
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05-03-12 12:36 PM - Post#148951
In response to KOKJ
The best thing anyone could do for their kids that attend AISD junior high and up is to get them out of AISD. The schools are out of control.
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Brewer
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05-03-12 12:57 PM - Post#148952
In response to vm7mm
The SUPERintendant would never ALLOW that to happen VM, therefore, it CAN'T happen. Wishful thinking is magical remember. Where did I put my unicorn?
A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week.
-GEN George S. Patton
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Janice
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05-03-12 02:32 PM - Post#148955
In response to KOKJ
My son and his friends haven't mentioned gangs. The incident last week you are referring to may be the drug bust that occurred. Several kids were arrested for drugs back by the football field during school last week.
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csquare
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05-03-12 11:21 PM - Post#148977
In response to vm7mm
I think characterizing the schools as "out of control" is a little harsh. I just asked my child if she has ever seen a fight at school. The answer was "no", and she is a Junior. She says that when students start getting mouthy and aggressive school security acts really quickly and it usually doesn't escalate far. Yes, I know there are fights; and yes, I know there is some gang activity, but the High School is still a decent place with lots of really great and caring kids on the whole. Do you spend any time at the High School? I do. Taking your kids out of the AISD system and sending them somewhere else is not going to be any better. High schools had fights going on even back in the Stone Age when I was a student, and it wasn't the beginning of the end of civilization then either. It was a small percentage of troublemakers then--as it is now. I think the positive aspects of Allen High School far outweigh the risks and the negatives, and I'm truly sorry you don't see that too.
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KOKJ
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05-03-12 11:31 PM - Post#148978
In response to csquare
Wow. So now we have drugs and gangs in Allen. Drugs, I'm not really surprised about. They're everywhere. I just hope this isn't a trend. The gangs I have a problem with. My nephews said they've seen incidents where these "gang members" have had, what appeared to be, their families show up and looked to be carrying firearms on them to some situations where a group of kids would be hanging out. Now, I don't know about you guys but I really hope this doesn't get out of control, and pray that Allen PD and AISD are going out of their ways to curb this crap.
vm7mm and Brewer, if you have information, please share. I'm not hip to what you're trying to tell us and I feel like I'm not in the clique. So please just come out and say whatever it is that you need to say.
I also think it's a bit extreme to characterize AISD schools as "out of control." Some of the schools may needs some help and guidance but I find it irrational to make a blanket statement against what sounded like ALL Allen schools.
Edited by KOKJ on 05-03-12 11:33 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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brian0527
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05-04-12 06:38 AM - Post#148986
In response to KOKJ
I also think it's a bit extreme to characterize AISD schools as "out of control." Some of the schools may needs some help and guidance but I find it irrational to make a blanket statement against what sounded like ALL Allen schools.
It's kids and Parenting that is out of control. You know the old saying "You can run but you can't hide". Drugs and gangs are problems just about everywhere and while they may not be in podunkville today it will likely be in the future.
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vm7mm
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05-04-12 07:00 AM - Post#148987
In response to csquare
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"Taking your kids out of the AISD system and sending them somewhere else is not going to be any better"
It has done a world of good! My child does not have to put up with the drugs, fights, and the uncaring staff. My child went from just barely passing to A's and B+'s. It is a private school and my child is worth it. My child's whole life has changed for the better since we got my child out of AISD. I know people will probably say that my child was a problem child or something of that sort, not true!
Edited by vm7mm on 05-04-12 07:48 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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workingmom
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05-04-12 08:40 AM - Post#148991
In response to vm7mm
My son (a junior) randomly mentioned last evening that there had been a lot of fights at the school lately. He said it always seemed to be in an area he needed to get through to get to class. I asked if he knew what was driving the fights and he said he hadn't seen evidence of gangs and figured it was just the stress of the end of the school year.
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csquare
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05-04-12 01:10 PM - Post#149010
In response to vm7mm
I really am glad that you found a good school that suits your individual child. I am a huge proponent of customization rather than standardization in education. However, I am still of the opinion that sending kids to private schools to protect them doesn't always work, and shouldn't be the only reason for switching. I say this from long personal observation and conversations with parents whose children have been sent to private schools. In my business, I get to interact with students on a one-to-one basis all the time. They tell me things. The private school kids report just as much bad behavior as the public school kids. Sometimes private schools are the only options for kids who have been tossed out of public school for their own bad behavior. They don't automatically straighten up and fly right when they switch schools. Also, I hope the shift in grades you are seeing really reflects a better work environment for your child and not just lower standards. I have worked with some private school kids who are barely expected to do anything for their grades. I hope that's not the case for your child--it doesn't serve them well later.
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Levansfour
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05-04-12 02:22 PM - Post#149015
In response to csquare
Not to be too snarky but if you already pulled your child out of AISD,what are you doing fussing over something that does not effect you or your child?
It does not matter where you live there is going to be fights,drugs and yes gang issues.It does not matter if it is private school or public it is out there all you can do is educate your child be involved in what they are doing with who they are doing it with and why. show your kid you are interested in what they are doing and be a good example.
My youngest of 4 is graduating on the 30th of this month and AISD has done wonderful and amazing things for my kids and I highly recommend it to anyone who is looking for a great town to raise kids in.
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texmomma
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05-04-12 03:01 PM - Post#149018
In response to Levansfour
I have a daughter at Ford and one at AHS (Sophomore). I'm sure that if they were looking for drugs/gangs they would find them. As it is, they are too busy with band and other positive activities. They occasionally see fights etc, you are going to find these things available anywhere. So would I in the 80's. AISD has been an excellent place for my girls.
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vm7mm
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05-04-12 06:55 PM - Post#149024
In response to workingmom
My son (a junior) randomly mentioned last evening that there had been a lot of fights at the school lately. He said it always seemed to be in an area he needed to get through to get to class. I asked if he knew what was driving the fights and he said he hadn't seen evidence of gangs and figured it was just the stress of the end of the school year.
Trying not to be so fussy, but if there are fights at a certain area, wouldn't you think if the staff were doing it's job correctly, this area would be monitored and they would put a stop to this? Guess they either dont care or they do a very bad job of monitoring the cameras.
Edited by vm7mm on 05-04-12 06:56 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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KOKJ
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05-04-12 07:04 PM - Post#149025
In response to vm7mm
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"Taking your kids out of the AISD system and sending them somewhere else is not going to be any better"
It has done a world of good! My child does not have to put up with the drugs, fights, and the uncaring staff. My child went from just barely passing to A's and B+'s. It is a private school and my child is worth it. My child's whole life has changed for the better since we got my child out of AISD. I know people will probably say that my child was a problem child or something of that sort, not true!
I'm glad your child is doing better wherever you sent them. However, I have a real hard time believing AISD is as bad as you say based on one person's experiences. I know there are others who are not thrilled but on the whole, I think AISD is a great district. We don't know why your child didn't do well in AISD schools because we are not your family. Maybe your child has special needs that would be better taken care of by a private school organization, and if you found what he/she needs then great. I'm truly happy for you because, any way you look at this, it's about the kids and not us. But slamming AISD like you are is a bit excessive.
I started this thread to inquire about a reported gang problem. I don't have kids in middle/high school, but I have nephews there and I wanted to validate their stories. I had no intentions of this turning into a pissing match.
Edited by KOKJ on 05-04-12 07:05 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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vm7mm
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05-04-12 07:35 PM - Post#149026
In response to KOKJ
You asked questions you got answers, believe what you want!
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KOKJ
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05-04-12 10:45 PM - Post#149031
In response to vm7mm
But I didn't ask about opinions of AISD. So, thanks.
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c3lost
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05-05-12 10:15 AM - Post#149037
In response to KOKJ
I would challange you to go to any highschool public, or private and not find drugs. There were drugs when I went to high school over 30 years ago.
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starrlac
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05-05-12 09:21 PM - Post#149048
In response to KOKJ
I have a son who attends Lowery. He said he has not heard of gang related activity, but said even if there was some, he would be unlikely to know about it because it wouldn't involve anyone he knows.
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KOKJ
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05-05-12 09:26 PM - Post#149049
In response to starrlac
Whether he knows anyone that deals with it or not, he can be affected by it. I just hope it goes away as quickly as it came. I can't stand gang-related activity and I hope Allen PD and AISD take it as seriously as it needs to be taken. I don't want that garbage here.
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CHurt
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05-05-12 09:34 PM - Post#149050
In response to KOKJ
we are talking about a handful of "gang members" in a thousand member freshman center.
Take any of the Allen "gang members" and drop them in south central LA. They are all want-a-be gang members. they will wet their pants.
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KOKJ
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05-05-12 09:39 PM - Post#149051
In response to CHurt
I have no doubt about that, CHurt. I'm just concerned with this propagating out and becoming a real problem. Even when I hear that some of their family members are wandering the streets with them looking for trouble. I hope the Allen community won't tolerate it.
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vm7mm
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05-06-12 08:33 AM - Post#149053
In response to KOKJ
Here's proof that there has been gang activity in Allen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok-POYLbDNc
Edited by vm7mm on 05-06-12 08:34 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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texmomma
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 05-06-12 02:45 PM - Post#149060
In response to vm7mm
LOL! Good one!
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Lisatexmom
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05-07-12 11:49 AM - Post#149089
In response to KOKJ
My child is in the 11th grade - going into the 12th next year. I heard rumors when he was in the 9th grade of any gangs and of drugs at Lowery - I asked him then if he new of anything going on, he knew nothing, so I told him to just stay clear of anything like that if it is true.
I asked him this weekend if he knew of any gangs in the area, namely Lowery and he said he did not.
If there are gangs and more then likely it is a bunch of kids that hang together and act tuff (hopefully that is all it is) - but you would have to think if the rumor was going around when my son was there, then it could just be that - a rumor? and wouldn't the "gang" have to eventually move from Lowery to the High School? so that would mean we have gangs at the high school.
I think if it was a BIG issue (hopefully) we would have heard something by now - it is strange how only a few hear about these "gangs" and a few do not, the only way I hear about it is here.
So needless to say, hopefully it is a rumor, but no matter what there will be a group of kids that will try to cause problems - it is just the way it is. Unless YOU want to police the school 24/7.
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KOKJ
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05-07-12 09:18 PM - Post#149110
In response to Lisatexmom
Lisatexmom,
I know what you mean and understand what you say. I just came on here to ask. I'm not saying there is or is not a gang problem. I'm merely trying to validate.
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bshoking
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05-07-12 10:59 PM - Post#149114
In response to KOKJ
lame. and ridiculous. isnt allen one of the safest cities in the states?
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bshoking
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05-07-12 11:05 PM - Post#149115
In response to bshoking
http://www.cityofallen.org/archives/58/safest%20 ci...
Yep. this is only 4 short years ago. allen didnt go down that fast. worry about something else
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KOKJ
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05-08-12 12:01 AM - Post#149118
In response to bshoking
Nah, I'll continue to worry about gang activity in Allen, thanks. It's not something I want here. I'll certainly keep my eye on it and will freely worry about it. Thanks for your permission.
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cp
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05-08-12 07:12 AM - Post#149122
In response to bshoking
lame. and ridiculous. isnt allen one of the safest cities in the states?
Of course Allen is one of the safest cities in the states.
Can you tell me something you've done to wisk away reality and pretend nothing happens or goes wrong here?
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bshoking
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05-08-12 03:09 PM - Post#149138
In response to cp
i don't really pretend nothing happens here. i just wont use my energy to worry about something thats not worry worthy. if i lived in say, LA, detroit, or even east dallas, id worry about gangs. but i dont, luckily i live here in allen, one of the safest communities to live in. i have enough real problems to worry about. but some of the things ive found that work for me to stay happy and not anxiety ridden are: excercise, reading, walking, cooking, enjoying a drink or two, and connecting with nature helps me the most. Different things work for different people. peace and enjoy yourself
Edited by bshoking on 05-08-12 03:15 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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bshoking
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05-08-12 03:14 PM - Post#149139
In response to KOKJ
i didnt give you permission. people either worry or they dont, there is no permission involved. thanks for your attention to this pressing issue.
please do tell what is being done about this problem? anything?
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DrivinTooFast
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05-08-12 04:23 PM - Post#149140
In response to KOKJ
Any school that size with the racial diversity of AISD is going to have some gang activity. There is always some group that wants to control the drug trafficing through the school.
Knowing APD, they know the issue and are controlling it as best as is possible. I have a couple of kids at the school and I can tell you first hand none of them are afraid to go to school or worried about being there after dark. AISD is a safe school system and does not have a gang problem but does have gangs and thugs like any other large school.
The private school kids just go to the public school dealers or their in school Abercrombie and Fitch drug dealer. If you think your kid is safer in a private school you are kidding yourself.
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cp
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05-08-12 09:06 PM - Post#149150
In response to bshoking
i don't really pretend nothing happens here. i just wont use my energy to worry about something thats not worry worthy. if i lived in say, LA, detroit, or even east dallas, id worry about gangs. but i dont, luckily i live here in allen, one of the safest communities to live in. i have enough real problems to worry about. but some of the things ive found that work for me to stay happy and not anxiety ridden are: excercise, reading, walking, cooking, enjoying a drink or two, and connecting with nature helps me the most. Different things work for different people. peace and enjoy yourself
Believe it or not, I can identify with a few of those that you mentioned helping you, especially the nature aspect. As a matter of fact, I'm more outside than I am inside, even in the deat middle of Texas' helacious summers.
I suppose where I was coming from in my response to you was wondering if you have any children at Lowery since either I missed that part or you didn't mention it. They would probably know more than what they tell their parents...
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cp
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05-08-12 09:08 PM - Post#149151
In response to DrivinTooFast
Any school that size with the racial diversity of AISD is going to have some gang activity. There is always some group that wants to control the drug trafficing through the school.
Knowing APD, they know the issue and are controlling it as best as is possible. I have a couple of kids at the school and I can tell you first hand none of them are afraid to go to school or worried about being there after dark. AISD is a safe school system and does not have a gang problem but does have gangs and thugs like any other large school.
The private school kids just go to the public school dealers or their in school Abercrombie and Fitch drug dealer. If you think your kid is safer in a private school you are kidding yourself.
That last statement is the truth. If we want to talk about safest school, that would be a home school. But, then we run into a whole different debate, such as social/interpersonal skills.
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vm7mm
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05-09-12 10:11 AM - Post#149166
In response to DrivinTooFast
Any school that size with the racial diversity of AISD is going to have some gang activity. There is always some group that wants to control the drug trafficing through the school.
Knowing APD, they know the issue and are controlling it as best as is possible. I have a couple of kids at the school and I can tell you first hand none of them are afraid to go to school or worried about being there after dark. AISD is a safe school system and does not have a gang problem but does have gangs and thugs like any other large school.
The private school kids just go to the public school dealers or their in school Abercrombie and Fitch drug dealer. If you think your kid is safer in a private school you are kidding yourself.
My child is safer in a private school. There are less students there, no bells ring and there is no mad dash to make it to their next class, five students per teacher per class, conference tables instead of desks, hours are 9:00 to 3:30 four days per week, the students have to be accepted and are checked out thoroughly (drug tested also) before allowed to attend there. Zero fights and zero tolerance. Released anytime at my request also.
Edited by vm7mm on 05-09-12 12:21 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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DrivinTooFast
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05-09-12 12:49 PM - Post#149186
In response to vm7mm
What drugs did they test for??
OXY, Hydro? Kids are smarter then you think. My point is that the illussion of safety is a myth. Even home schoolers can end up being addicted to drugs. The only solution I know of is a close relationship with your kiddo and a policy of trust, but verify. Even then, you never know.
Being a parent is scarey and takes an incredible amount of effort, but at the end of the day you have to give the little birds the confidence, self worth and skills to fly - not be tied to the nest.
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vm7mm
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05-09-12 12:59 PM - Post#149190
In response to DrivinTooFast
The drugs and the gangs and whatever at the school dont scare us. My child can now learn in a stable atmosphere without all the distractions.
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gma3
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05-09-12 05:17 PM - Post#149199
In response to CHurt
I have seen a police car parked in the lot facing Main St. everyday. Is that a security guard or is there police presence there every day? Just wondering???
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vm7mm
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05-09-12 05:44 PM - Post#149201
In response to gma3
I believe APD always has an Officer at Ford, Curtis, Lowery, Ereckson, Dillard, and the HIGH School. They sometimes rotate Officers at the elementary schools also.
Edited by vm7mm on 05-09-12 05:47 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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gma3
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05-09-12 09:12 PM - Post#149212
In response to vm7mm
Very disheartening that it is necessary this day and age to have to protect our children in this way.....
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DrivinTooFast
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05-10-12 12:25 PM - Post#149253
In response to gma3
I think the only person worried about this is 7. The rest of us pretty much know that AHS is a safe school. Frankly, I'd rather a kid run into gang activity in HS and know and understand how to deal with it rather then living in a micro utopia where they get suckered into REAL gang activity and get rolled, mugged or worse. My kids are prepared to live anywhere when they leave my nest - NYC, LA, Singapore. Our jobs as parents is to prepare our kids for the REAL world not Mr. Rodgers neighborhood.
We ride public transportation to downtown, the subways in NYC and even walk the city streets after dark. Allen suburbia is so worried about putting the foam bumpers on the corners of the table that we foget to educate our kids to look for the corners and avoid them.
These little eagles need to have the tools to fly on their own.
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AA
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05-10-12 12:35 PM - Post#149254
In response to vm7mm
I'm sorry, but mine and the sheltered kids of AISD's portrayal of "gangs" is much different. There ARE NO GANGS in Allen. A group of tough kids bullying others is not a gang!!! Do they have colors? do they have signs? do they have tattoos? Would they kill to defend a fellow gang member? To be in a gang you have to go through some intense initiations including breaking many serious laws to prove yourself, and once you're in, there is no out. I think it would be a little more mainstream if there was a gang problem in one of the countries "safest cities", not just kids that have no idea what a gang really is saying there are problems.
Fights: EVERY high school has fights, it's part of growing up
Supposed "tagging": Just kids playing with spraypaint. Gangs mark their territory with graffiti, show me a recognizable gang sign on the side of an Allen building and 100 person fighting for territory and I will believe there are gangs.
Any person that has spent time in a large gang ran city, like Detroit (myself), will laugh in your face just by looking at the kids and at the area when you tell them there are "gangs". They are just kids being kids, not gangbangers.
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vm7mm
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05-10-12 12:35 PM - Post#149255
In response to DrivinTooFast
I think the only person worried about this is 7. The rest of us pretty much know that AHS is a safe school. Frankly, I'd rather a kid run into gang activity in HS and know and understand how to deal with it rather then living in a micro utopia where they get suckered into REAL gang activity and get rolled, mugged or worse. My kids are prepared to live anywhere when they leave my nest - NYC, LA, Singapore. Our jobs as parents is to prepare our kids for the REAL world not Mr. Rodgers neighborhood.
We ride public transportation to downtown, the subways in NYC and even walk the city streets after dark. Allen suburbia is so worried about putting the foam bumpers on the corners of the table that we foget to educate our kids to look for the corners and avoid them.
These little eagles need to have the tools to fly on their own.
If you are referring to me (7), I and my children are not worried about anything. If you knew our background, you would agree. They have been educated well! You need to be talking about the origional poster rather than me.
Edited by vm7mm on 05-10-12 05:49 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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bshoking
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05-10-12 09:46 PM - Post#149287
In response to DrivinTooFast
agree!
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bshoking
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05-10-12 09:47 PM - Post#149288
In response to AA
TRUE. TRUE. 
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KOKJ
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05-12-12 09:52 AM - Post#149326
In response to vm7mm
If you are referring to me (7), I and my children are not worried about anything. If you knew our background, you would agree. They have been educated well! You need to be talking about the origional poster rather than me.
Um, excuse me vm7mm, I started this thread to ask a question and to gain other people's observations. You responded to this thread on your high horse looking down upon us all. Don't go pointing the finger at me, please. Now go bury your nose back in your private little utopia where Allen ISD is the worst school district in the world!
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05-12-12 10:32 AM - Post#149330
In response to KOKJ
Bury your nose where the sun dont shine!
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05-12-12 12:39 PM - Post#149334
In response to vm7mm
Everyone,
Let's please stop the personal attacks.
Thank you,
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