KOKJ
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05-03-12 01:58 AM - Post#148926
I'm just posting this to see if any of you guys and gals have heard anything from your kids. I have 2 nephews that attend the Lowery Freshman Center and they've claimed there is a gang problem. I laughed and asked "are you kidding me? A gang problem? In Allen? My Allen?" They responded with "Yes! We're serious!" I also heard that last week, several of these "gang members" were taken away to the Dillard Center for some reason. I'm really not clear on any of it, but am just wondering if any of you have heard anything similar or not. Of course, if there is a gang problem, I hope all of Allen does everything possible to squelch it.
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denisew
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05-03-12 10:55 AM - Post#148947
In response to KOKJ
Yes, there is a gang problem. There have been places through Allen that have been "tagged" by gangs with their symbols - graffiti. I have heard of fights at the high school too. I was talking to a teen last week and he said there were five fights at the high school that day. Not sure if they were gang related though, but wouldn't surprise me. Yes, AISD is doing what they can to keep those issues under control.
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vm7mm
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05-03-12 12:36 PM - Post#148951
In response to KOKJ
The best thing anyone could do for their kids that attend AISD junior high and up is to get them out of AISD. The schools are out of control.
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Brewer
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05-03-12 12:57 PM - Post#148952
In response to vm7mm
The SUPERintendant would never ALLOW that to happen VM, therefore, it CAN'T happen. Wishful thinking is magical remember. Where did I put my unicorn?
A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week.
-GEN George S. Patton
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Janice
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05-03-12 02:32 PM - Post#148955
In response to KOKJ
My son and his friends haven't mentioned gangs. The incident last week you are referring to may be the drug bust that occurred. Several kids were arrested for drugs back by the football field during school last week.
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csquare
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05-03-12 11:21 PM - Post#148977
In response to vm7mm
I think characterizing the schools as "out of control" is a little harsh. I just asked my child if she has ever seen a fight at school. The answer was "no", and she is a Junior. She says that when students start getting mouthy and aggressive school security acts really quickly and it usually doesn't escalate far. Yes, I know there are fights; and yes, I know there is some gang activity, but the High School is still a decent place with lots of really great and caring kids on the whole. Do you spend any time at the High School? I do. Taking your kids out of the AISD system and sending them somewhere else is not going to be any better. High schools had fights going on even back in the Stone Age when I was a student, and it wasn't the beginning of the end of civilization then either. It was a small percentage of troublemakers then--as it is now. I think the positive aspects of Allen High School far outweigh the risks and the negatives, and I'm truly sorry you don't see that too.
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KOKJ
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05-03-12 11:31 PM - Post#148978
In response to csquare
Wow. So now we have drugs and gangs in Allen. Drugs, I'm not really surprised about. They're everywhere. I just hope this isn't a trend. The gangs I have a problem with. My nephews said they've seen incidents where these "gang members" have had, what appeared to be, their families show up and looked to be carrying firearms on them to some situations where a group of kids would be hanging out. Now, I don't know about you guys but I really hope this doesn't get out of control, and pray that Allen PD and AISD are going out of their ways to curb this crap.
vm7mm and Brewer, if you have information, please share. I'm not hip to what you're trying to tell us and I feel like I'm not in the clique. So please just come out and say whatever it is that you need to say.
I also think it's a bit extreme to characterize AISD schools as "out of control." Some of the schools may needs some help and guidance but I find it irrational to make a blanket statement against what sounded like ALL Allen schools.
Edited by KOKJ on 05-03-12 11:33 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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brian0527
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05-04-12 06:38 AM - Post#148986
In response to KOKJ
I also think it's a bit extreme to characterize AISD schools as "out of control." Some of the schools may needs some help and guidance but I find it irrational to make a blanket statement against what sounded like ALL Allen schools.
It's kids and Parenting that is out of control. You know the old saying "You can run but you can't hide". Drugs and gangs are problems just about everywhere and while they may not be in podunkville today it will likely be in the future.
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vm7mm
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05-04-12 07:00 AM - Post#148987
In response to csquare
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"Taking your kids out of the AISD system and sending them somewhere else is not going to be any better"
It has done a world of good! My child does not have to put up with the drugs, fights, and the uncaring staff. My child went from just barely passing to A's and B+'s. It is a private school and my child is worth it. My child's whole life has changed for the better since we got my child out of AISD. I know people will probably say that my child was a problem child or something of that sort, not true!
Edited by vm7mm on 05-04-12 07:48 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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workingmom
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05-04-12 08:40 AM - Post#148991
In response to vm7mm
My son (a junior) randomly mentioned last evening that there had been a lot of fights at the school lately. He said it always seemed to be in an area he needed to get through to get to class. I asked if he knew what was driving the fights and he said he hadn't seen evidence of gangs and figured it was just the stress of the end of the school year.
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csquare
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05-04-12 01:10 PM - Post#149010
In response to vm7mm
I really am glad that you found a good school that suits your individual child. I am a huge proponent of customization rather than standardization in education. However, I am still of the opinion that sending kids to private schools to protect them doesn't always work, and shouldn't be the only reason for switching. I say this from long personal observation and conversations with parents whose children have been sent to private schools. In my business, I get to interact with students on a one-to-one basis all the time. They tell me things. The private school kids report just as much bad behavior as the public school kids. Sometimes private schools are the only options for kids who have been tossed out of public school for their own bad behavior. They don't automatically straighten up and fly right when they switch schools. Also, I hope the shift in grades you are seeing really reflects a better work environment for your child and not just lower standards. I have worked with some private school kids who are barely expected to do anything for their grades. I hope that's not the case for your child--it doesn't serve them well later.
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Levansfour
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05-04-12 02:22 PM - Post#149015
In response to csquare
Not to be too snarky but if you already pulled your child out of AISD,what are you doing fussing over something that does not effect you or your child?
It does not matter where you live there is going to be fights,drugs and yes gang issues.It does not matter if it is private school or public it is out there all you can do is educate your child be involved in what they are doing with who they are doing it with and why. show your kid you are interested in what they are doing and be a good example.
My youngest of 4 is graduating on the 30th of this month and AISD has done wonderful and amazing things for my kids and I highly recommend it to anyone who is looking for a great town to raise kids in.
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texmomma
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05-04-12 03:01 PM - Post#149018
In response to Levansfour
I have a daughter at Ford and one at AHS (Sophomore). I'm sure that if they were looking for drugs/gangs they would find them. As it is, they are too busy with band and other positive activities. They occasionally see fights etc, you are going to find these things available anywhere. So would I in the 80's. AISD has been an excellent place for my girls.
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vm7mm
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05-04-12 06:55 PM - Post#149024
In response to workingmom
My son (a junior) randomly mentioned last evening that there had been a lot of fights at the school lately. He said it always seemed to be in an area he needed to get through to get to class. I asked if he knew what was driving the fights and he said he hadn't seen evidence of gangs and figured it was just the stress of the end of the school year.
Trying not to be so fussy, but if there are fights at a certain area, wouldn't you think if the staff were doing it's job correctly, this area would be monitored and they would put a stop to this? Guess they either dont care or they do a very bad job of monitoring the cameras.
Edited by vm7mm on 05-04-12 06:56 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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KOKJ
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05-04-12 07:04 PM - Post#149025
In response to vm7mm
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"Taking your kids out of the AISD system and sending them somewhere else is not going to be any better"
It has done a world of good! My child does not have to put up with the drugs, fights, and the uncaring staff. My child went from just barely passing to A's and B+'s. It is a private school and my child is worth it. My child's whole life has changed for the better since we got my child out of AISD. I know people will probably say that my child was a problem child or something of that sort, not true!
I'm glad your child is doing better wherever you sent them. However, I have a real hard time believing AISD is as bad as you say based on one person's experiences. I know there are others who are not thrilled but on the whole, I think AISD is a great district. We don't know why your child didn't do well in AISD schools because we are not your family. Maybe your child has special needs that would be better taken care of by a private school organization, and if you found what he/she needs then great. I'm truly happy for you because, any way you look at this, it's about the kids and not us. But slamming AISD like you are is a bit excessive.
I started this thread to inquire about a reported gang problem. I don't have kids in middle/high school, but I have nephews there and I wanted to validate their stories. I had no intentions of this turning into a pissing match.
Edited by KOKJ on 05-04-12 07:05 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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vm7mm
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05-04-12 07:35 PM - Post#149026
In response to KOKJ
You asked questions you got answers, believe what you want!
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KOKJ
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05-04-12 10:45 PM - Post#149031
In response to vm7mm
But I didn't ask about opinions of AISD. So, thanks.
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c3lost
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05-05-12 10:15 AM - Post#149037
In response to KOKJ
I would challange you to go to any highschool public, or private and not find drugs. There were drugs when I went to high school over 30 years ago.
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starrlac
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05-05-12 09:21 PM - Post#149048
In response to KOKJ
I have a son who attends Lowery. He said he has not heard of gang related activity, but said even if there was some, he would be unlikely to know about it because it wouldn't involve anyone he knows.
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KOKJ
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05-05-12 09:26 PM - Post#149049
In response to starrlac
Whether he knows anyone that deals with it or not, he can be affected by it. I just hope it goes away as quickly as it came. I can't stand gang-related activity and I hope Allen PD and AISD take it as seriously as it needs to be taken. I don't want that garbage here.
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