CHurt
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05-05-12 09:34 PM - Post#149050
In response to KOKJ
we are talking about a handful of "gang members" in a thousand member freshman center.
Take any of the Allen "gang members" and drop them in south central LA. They are all want-a-be gang members. they will wet their pants.
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KOKJ
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Posts: 56
Reg: 11-27-08
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05-05-12 09:39 PM - Post#149051
In response to CHurt
I have no doubt about that, CHurt. I'm just concerned with this propagating out and becoming a real problem. Even when I hear that some of their family members are wandering the streets with them looking for trouble. I hope the Allen community won't tolerate it.
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vm7mm
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Loc: Allen Tx usa
Reg: 08-12-04
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05-06-12 08:33 AM - Post#149053
In response to KOKJ
Here's proof that there has been gang activity in Allen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok-POYLbDNc
Edited by vm7mm on 05-06-12 08:34 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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texmomma
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 05-06-12 02:45 PM - Post#149060
In response to vm7mm
LOL! Good one!
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Lisatexmom
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Reg: 01-19-05
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05-07-12 11:49 AM - Post#149089
In response to KOKJ
My child is in the 11th grade - going into the 12th next year. I heard rumors when he was in the 9th grade of any gangs and of drugs at Lowery - I asked him then if he new of anything going on, he knew nothing, so I told him to just stay clear of anything like that if it is true.
I asked him this weekend if he knew of any gangs in the area, namely Lowery and he said he did not.
If there are gangs and more then likely it is a bunch of kids that hang together and act tuff (hopefully that is all it is) - but you would have to think if the rumor was going around when my son was there, then it could just be that - a rumor? and wouldn't the "gang" have to eventually move from Lowery to the High School? so that would mean we have gangs at the high school.
I think if it was a BIG issue (hopefully) we would have heard something by now - it is strange how only a few hear about these "gangs" and a few do not, the only way I hear about it is here.
So needless to say, hopefully it is a rumor, but no matter what there will be a group of kids that will try to cause problems - it is just the way it is. Unless YOU want to police the school 24/7.
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KOKJ
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Posts: 56
Reg: 11-27-08
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05-07-12 09:18 PM - Post#149110
In response to Lisatexmom
Lisatexmom,
I know what you mean and understand what you say. I just came on here to ask. I'm not saying there is or is not a gang problem. I'm merely trying to validate.
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bshoking
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Posts: 37
Loc: east side
Reg: 01-26-11
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05-07-12 10:59 PM - Post#149114
In response to KOKJ
lame. and ridiculous. isnt allen one of the safest cities in the states?
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bshoking
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Loc: east side
Reg: 01-26-11
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05-07-12 11:05 PM - Post#149115
In response to bshoking
http://www.cityofallen.org/archives/58/safest%20 ci...
Yep. this is only 4 short years ago. allen didnt go down that fast. worry about something else
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KOKJ
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Reg: 11-27-08
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05-08-12 12:01 AM - Post#149118
In response to bshoking
Nah, I'll continue to worry about gang activity in Allen, thanks. It's not something I want here. I'll certainly keep my eye on it and will freely worry about it. Thanks for your permission.
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cp
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Reg: 12-14-11
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05-08-12 07:12 AM - Post#149122
In response to bshoking
lame. and ridiculous. isnt allen one of the safest cities in the states?
Of course Allen is one of the safest cities in the states.
Can you tell me something you've done to wisk away reality and pretend nothing happens or goes wrong here?
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bshoking
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Loc: east side
Reg: 01-26-11
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05-08-12 03:09 PM - Post#149138
In response to cp
i don't really pretend nothing happens here. i just wont use my energy to worry about something thats not worry worthy. if i lived in say, LA, detroit, or even east dallas, id worry about gangs. but i dont, luckily i live here in allen, one of the safest communities to live in. i have enough real problems to worry about. but some of the things ive found that work for me to stay happy and not anxiety ridden are: excercise, reading, walking, cooking, enjoying a drink or two, and connecting with nature helps me the most. Different things work for different people. peace and enjoy yourself
Edited by bshoking on 05-08-12 03:15 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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bshoking
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Loc: east side
Reg: 01-26-11
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05-08-12 03:14 PM - Post#149139
In response to KOKJ
i didnt give you permission. people either worry or they dont, there is no permission involved. thanks for your attention to this pressing issue.
please do tell what is being done about this problem? anything?
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DrivinTooFast
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Reg: 02-20-08
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05-08-12 04:23 PM - Post#149140
In response to KOKJ
Any school that size with the racial diversity of AISD is going to have some gang activity. There is always some group that wants to control the drug trafficing through the school.
Knowing APD, they know the issue and are controlling it as best as is possible. I have a couple of kids at the school and I can tell you first hand none of them are afraid to go to school or worried about being there after dark. AISD is a safe school system and does not have a gang problem but does have gangs and thugs like any other large school.
The private school kids just go to the public school dealers or their in school Abercrombie and Fitch drug dealer. If you think your kid is safer in a private school you are kidding yourself.
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cp
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Reg: 12-14-11
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05-08-12 09:06 PM - Post#149150
In response to bshoking
i don't really pretend nothing happens here. i just wont use my energy to worry about something thats not worry worthy. if i lived in say, LA, detroit, or even east dallas, id worry about gangs. but i dont, luckily i live here in allen, one of the safest communities to live in. i have enough real problems to worry about. but some of the things ive found that work for me to stay happy and not anxiety ridden are: excercise, reading, walking, cooking, enjoying a drink or two, and connecting with nature helps me the most. Different things work for different people. peace and enjoy yourself
Believe it or not, I can identify with a few of those that you mentioned helping you, especially the nature aspect. As a matter of fact, I'm more outside than I am inside, even in the deat middle of Texas' helacious summers.
I suppose where I was coming from in my response to you was wondering if you have any children at Lowery since either I missed that part or you didn't mention it. They would probably know more than what they tell their parents...
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cp
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05-08-12 09:08 PM - Post#149151
In response to DrivinTooFast
Any school that size with the racial diversity of AISD is going to have some gang activity. There is always some group that wants to control the drug trafficing through the school.
Knowing APD, they know the issue and are controlling it as best as is possible. I have a couple of kids at the school and I can tell you first hand none of them are afraid to go to school or worried about being there after dark. AISD is a safe school system and does not have a gang problem but does have gangs and thugs like any other large school.
The private school kids just go to the public school dealers or their in school Abercrombie and Fitch drug dealer. If you think your kid is safer in a private school you are kidding yourself.
That last statement is the truth. If we want to talk about safest school, that would be a home school. But, then we run into a whole different debate, such as social/interpersonal skills.
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vm7mm
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Loc: Allen Tx usa
Reg: 08-12-04
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05-09-12 10:11 AM - Post#149166
In response to DrivinTooFast
Any school that size with the racial diversity of AISD is going to have some gang activity. There is always some group that wants to control the drug trafficing through the school.
Knowing APD, they know the issue and are controlling it as best as is possible. I have a couple of kids at the school and I can tell you first hand none of them are afraid to go to school or worried about being there after dark. AISD is a safe school system and does not have a gang problem but does have gangs and thugs like any other large school.
The private school kids just go to the public school dealers or their in school Abercrombie and Fitch drug dealer. If you think your kid is safer in a private school you are kidding yourself.
My child is safer in a private school. There are less students there, no bells ring and there is no mad dash to make it to their next class, five students per teacher per class, conference tables instead of desks, hours are 9:00 to 3:30 four days per week, the students have to be accepted and are checked out thoroughly (drug tested also) before allowed to attend there. Zero fights and zero tolerance. Released anytime at my request also.
Edited by vm7mm on 05-09-12 12:21 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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DrivinTooFast
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05-09-12 12:49 PM - Post#149186
In response to vm7mm
What drugs did they test for??
OXY, Hydro? Kids are smarter then you think. My point is that the illussion of safety is a myth. Even home schoolers can end up being addicted to drugs. The only solution I know of is a close relationship with your kiddo and a policy of trust, but verify. Even then, you never know.
Being a parent is scarey and takes an incredible amount of effort, but at the end of the day you have to give the little birds the confidence, self worth and skills to fly - not be tied to the nest.
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vm7mm
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Reg: 08-12-04
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05-09-12 12:59 PM - Post#149190
In response to DrivinTooFast
The drugs and the gangs and whatever at the school dont scare us. My child can now learn in a stable atmosphere without all the distractions.
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gma3
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Posts: 609
Reg: 10-17-06
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05-09-12 05:17 PM - Post#149199
In response to CHurt
I have seen a police car parked in the lot facing Main St. everyday. Is that a security guard or is there police presence there every day? Just wondering???
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vm7mm
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Loc: Allen Tx usa
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05-09-12 05:44 PM - Post#149201
In response to gma3
I believe APD always has an Officer at Ford, Curtis, Lowery, Ereckson, Dillard, and the HIGH School. They sometimes rotate Officers at the elementary schools also.
Edited by vm7mm on 05-09-12 05:47 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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