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Jimi Ray Clapton 
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02-25-14 10:13 AM - Post#166360    

Interesting news from a state that recently slashed public educational funding. I don't mean to draw a connection that may not be there - just found that notable.

According to this story on a recent study: The 5 Least Literate Cities in America


 
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02-25-14 12:33 PM - Post#166363    
    In response to Jimi Ray Clapton

Huge immigrant populations in those cities.

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02-25-14 02:51 PM - Post#166367    
    In response to Allensince1993

The survey points to LITERATE cities and not at the problem of illiteracy. I disagree with the survey's limited indicators of literate.

Texas, however, has one of the highest rates of illiteracy in the country. Improving literacy benefits everyone. It gives opportunity to the newly literate to better participate in civic society and it greatly improves their earning capabilities.

 
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02-25-14 05:14 PM - Post#166376    
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  • SB Said:
The survey points to LITERATE cities and not at the problem of illiteracy. I disagree with the survey's limited indicators of literate.

Texas, however, has one of the highest rates of illiteracy in the country. Improving literacy benefits everyone. It gives opportunity to the newly literate to better participate in civic society and it greatly improves their earning capabilities.




It's in the title of the article:

The 5 Least Literate Cities in America
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02-25-14 06:09 PM - Post#166377    
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Their methodology was interesting, though I suspect that its accuracy is quickly going obsolete.

To clarify what the study was all about (emphasis mine):
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The focus of the study was not on reading test scores, but on reading culture, explained Dr. John W. Miller, head of the study and CCSU president. “This isn’t about whether or not people can read, it’s about whether they do read,” Miller said.



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The study reviewed city literacy based on six categories — library systems, bookstores, educational attainment, digital readership, and newspapers and other publications.



I would think that newspapers and bookstores are increasingly unreliable as indicators of regions where people read.


 
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02-25-14 06:42 PM - Post#166378    
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To be clear I didn't just post this out of the blue to pick on Texas. I had read a story not that long ago that suggested roughly the same thing. And it seems to me that Texas literacy rates have been a problem for a while relative to the rest of the country during the time that I've lived here. And it's expensive. I may be wrong - but I don't think so.

If it is the problem that I believe it may be - my only motive for posting is awareness. Seems to me that the first step in correcting a "negative" trend like this is to first acknowledge it.


 
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02-25-14 06:47 PM - Post#166379    
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I think this is the one I read last year.

Fort Worth Star-Telegram February 13, 2013: Texas cities lag behind in literacy rates

And then after I read the first article this morning - I went here to see if there was something to this:

Literacytexas.org: Facts & Statistics


 
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02-25-14 07:48 PM - Post#166381    
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They must not have counted Mississippi.

That's the dumbest, most backward place in the solar system.
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02-25-14 08:20 PM - Post#166382    
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Newspapers as a gauge? Really? Newspapers are dead media, the news there is old by the time it's printed.

Plus, no mention in the story, but was this English literacy or literacy in native tongue. Surely that skews the results.

 
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02-25-14 08:29 PM - Post#166383    
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  • lostyankee Said:
Newspapers as a gauge? Really? Newspapers are dead media, the news there is old by the time it's printed.

Plus, no mention in the story, but was this English literacy or literacy in native tongue. Surely that skews the results.



Here's a link to the methodology of this study - and other pertinent links from there


 
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02-25-14 09:43 PM - Post#166388    
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It's in the title of the article:

The 5 Least Literate Cities in America



Fine and good but if you read the article it leads off about the most literate cities and then diverts to discussion of criteria.

 
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02-25-14 09:48 PM - Post#166389    
    In response to lostyankee

  • lostyankee Said:
Newspapers as a gauge? Really? Newspapers are dead media, the news there is old by the time it's printed.

Plus, no mention in the story, but was this English literacy or literacy in native tongue. Surely that skews the results.




From the story:
“This isn’t about whether or not people can read, it’s about whether they do read,”


 
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02-26-14 07:18 AM - Post#166393    
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  • SB Said:
  • lostyankee Said:
Newspapers as a gauge? Really? Newspapers are dead media, the news there is old by the time it's printed.

Plus, no mention in the story, but was this English literacy or literacy in native tongue. Surely that skews the results.




From the story:
“This isn’t about whether or not people can read, it’s about whether they do read,”



It's odd that they chose not to include Amazon ebook sales, online viewership, and in-app book purchases (nook, kindle, etc on tablets).

My wife reads more than anyone I know, but according to this study she would be considered illiterate. Ironically her technology literacy is what would cause the researchers to deem her illiterate.
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02-26-14 08:46 AM - Post#166395    
    In response to mgrayar

I can't say for sure whether or not they included Amazon and other e-reader resources for the data collection. I do agree that it would seem to be a huge mistake to exclude that. In the study overview it states:

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This study attempts to capture one critical index of our nation’s social health--the literacy of its major cities (population of 250,000 and above). This study focuses on six key indicators of literacy: number of bookstores, educational attainment, Internet resources, library resources, periodical publishing resources,and newspaper circulation.







 
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02-26-14 10:27 AM - Post#166398    
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Ah. I missed that. Not sure what that encompasses.
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