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02-25-14 09:33 PM - Post#166384
First in a series of ongoing para-military action in the US. This place is getting to look more like out enemies than our own country.
http://www.kansascity.com/2014/02/12/4819463/le awo...
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02-25-14 09:37 PM - Post#166385
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So much for the happy ending. Alabama police in full military gear raid a massage parlor.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/20...
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02-25-14 09:41 PM - Post#166386
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The subject is getting more press.
http://www.cato.org/publications/white-pa per/overk...
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02-25-14 09:42 PM - Post#166387
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http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001 4240527...
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02-25-14 11:01 PM - Post#166390
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From the comments section:
The militarization of local police departments, the incessant digital surveillance, the consolidation of media ownership, the erosion of civil rights, and the dumbing down of public education are clear signs that the US government regards the US public, or at least the fraction with a net worth less than a million, as its primary enemy.
Personally, I think that they are overreacting. As long as there is food in the 'fridge and reality shows on the teevee, most Americans will be content with our descent into corporate fascism.
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02-26-14 07:27 AM - Post#166394
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And its speeding up. Under Obama, it has slipped it into hyperdrive....buy we got a nifty free phone out of the deal.
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02-27-14 03:26 PM - Post#166426
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Elderly man shot by police while reaching for cane.
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/02/27/33 3956...
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02-27-14 03:27 PM - Post#166427
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And its speeding up. Under Obama, it has slipped it into hyperdrive....buy we got a nifty free phone out of the deal.
Obama influences local police policy in Texas, Mississippi and Alabama?
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02-27-14 04:45 PM - Post#166433
In response to pup
We must follow the gun situation in CT for a glimpse of the future.
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02-27-14 05:01 PM - Post#166436
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We must follow the gun situation in CT for a glimpse of the future.
Let's hope it is a glimpse of the future.
Especially the part where the general public in that state mobilized and were successful through the legislative process in getting new, sensible laws on the books.
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02-27-14 08:26 PM - Post#166463
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And its speeding up. Under Obama, it has slipped it into hyperdrive....buy we got a nifty free phone out of the deal.
Obama influences local police policy in Texas, Mississippi and Alabama?
Yes, a rogue Federal Government beholding to no one emboldens the locals. And it's getting worse. Georgie Boy unleashed the Genie from the bottle and Obama is cheering it on.
The NSA knew I'd write that response this time yesterday.
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02-28-14 07:53 AM - Post#166475
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a rogue Federal Government beholding to no one emboldens the locals.
It does? I mean, maybe. But how does that work? Connect the dots and help me understand what you mean.
And, in my view, the "federal goverment", in the sense that I think you mean it, is absolutely beholden to a someone... just not the huge majority that are marginalized, either asleep or too busy ankle-biting at each other, convinced that they have some say in "the process" because they pull a lever every so often.
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02-28-14 08:30 AM - Post#166477
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Who, if not the feds, will hold the militant local law enforcement accountable?
You?
Me?
They know what is happening, and Federal dollars support the purchase of the military style equipment being utilized.
Let's not be naive about this.
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02-28-14 09:32 AM - Post#166480
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Let's not be naive about this.
a rogue Federal Government beholding to no one
I beg your pardon...
Good grief.
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02-28-14 10:04 AM - Post#166486
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NSA
I rest my case.
You can "good grief" all you want. Your empty attempt at belittlement is the very definition of irrelevant to me.
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02-28-14 10:33 AM - Post#166489
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Yes, yes... irrelevant. Not unlike your feigning of omnipotent intellectual superiority.
Every "agency", without exception, requires funding. They do not operate on magic pixie dust. Do you deny this? Who do you believe allocates this money? The money fairy? Thanks to recently leaked documents - we even know what that (NSA) budget is.
I suggest you do your homework.
You could start here.
Me, naive? Perhaps. From someone's point of view.
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02-28-14 10:48 AM - Post#166491
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You win.
Happy Police Militarization to you and yours!!
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02-28-14 11:11 AM - Post#166492
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Who, if not the feds, will hold the militant local law enforcement accountable?
You?
Me?
They know what is happening, and Federal dollars support the purchase of the military style equipment being utilized.
Let's not be naive about this.
Point taken. Hadn't really considered that aspect of it. Obama could have the excess military equipment sold to foreign countries, but allows it to be sold to local police agencies in what could be considered circumventing the constitution where it stipulates our military will not act against our own citizens. Now we just have little police armies running rogue around the country. I'm just happy you agree we have a huge law enforcement problem that only seems to be growing. Too many around here have this blind faith in our police while thinking to themselves they have done nothing to fear the police over.
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02-28-14 05:54 PM - Post#166523
In response to PartyOfEight
I am friends with the Chief and other police management in one city and have acquaintance with police management is some other cities. I am not a police officer. The descriptions of out of control departments does not match the cities I know. I wouldn't argue that philosophy doesn't exist some places but I would argue those are exceptions.
Police are increasingly facing an escalation in fire power from the bad guys. I don't begrudge the police equipping themselves to avoid being slaughtered as they try to protect us and our property.
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03-03-14 10:02 AM - Post#166577
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A California police department forced to wear body cameras and use of force, abuse of force, and complaints down over 60%.
http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=44427
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03-03-14 05:13 PM - Post#166591
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Police allegedly smell meth, raid home, execute 80 y/o man and cremate him before family can claim the body. No meth, no meth operations, just an old man awaken by masked thugs. We can do this every day. It's not made up. We have a problem in this country. Maybe it's 11 years of war and lord knows executing civilians in Iraq seems to be a prerequisite for policing in America.
http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/16/police-sme ll-met...
video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZFlIK-zAO8#t =27
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03-03-14 07:20 PM - Post#166593
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The investigative reporting show Faultlines has an amazing series of reports on the subjects. This so violates the constitution and military force against civilians. This report could scare you.
http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows/fault-lin ...
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03-15-14 11:26 AM - Post#166819
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Unarmed airman shot in gut by Alabama police as he lay on ground following traffic accident
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/03/12/unarmed -airm...
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03-15-14 04:51 PM - Post#166824
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I wasn't familiar with that site, but here is another story on it. Some other facts seem to complicate the issue. http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/2014/03/14/3002443/op elika-police-chief-office r-used.html
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03-15-14 10:18 PM - Post#166831
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Missingchico! I knew I recognized the ignorance! Changed the name but nothing else.
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03-16-14 08:52 AM - Post#166835
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The story is bad enough without making false claims. The police did not, and do not cremate body's after investigations. The article states that the body was released to a family member who had it cremated. The wife didn't support cremation, but that sounds like family dysfunction.
All these stories are terrible incidents. However, how are you relating it back to the original topic? I didn't think this thread was about all these unfortunate incidents, rather the militarization of police forces. I don't see much in the recent articles you posted to suggest that these incidents were led to by the topic you originally presented.
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03-21-14 02:22 PM - Post#166956
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http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21 599349-americas-police-ha ve-become-too-militarised -cops-or-soldiers
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03-22-14 10:50 AM - Post#166964
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http://krqe.com/2014/03/21/apd-office r-involved-sh...
This will make you sick.
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03-23-14 09:06 AM - Post#166968
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Cops or soldiers? America’s police have become too militarised
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03-23-14 10:08 AM - Post#166970
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What the police are faced with
http://youtu.be/HU0bMxqc5HI
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03-24-14 06:36 PM - Post#166996
In response to SB
Police go into this business knowing there is a possibility of encountering a violent suspect, however I do not believe it condones the execution of unarmed people in their own homes over petty crimes to begin with. These police agencies now use the same tactics as our soldiers did going house to house in Baghdad. Too many innocents were killed in Iraq using these strong arm tactics and US citizens are being treated as war enemies in a war the victims are not participating in. I'll never agree with this use of force even at the expense of a few police officers. At least they knew what they volunteered for. Innocent men, women and children are being executed simply responding to their front doors being kicked in. Sounds like the old propaganda we used to hear about countries like the U.S.S.R.
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03-25-14 08:48 AM - Post#166998
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Guilty until proven dead.
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03-26-14 04:28 PM - Post#167023
In response to pup
In my view, these kinds of stories are related, in a general way, to the original topic.
Along side a "militarization" of police forces, there seems to be an element of unaccountability when mistakes are made and a sort of "above the law" aspect. Along with instances of excessive force, I think occurrences of police not wanting themselves video recorded by bystanders as well as legislation making certain information that should absolutely be publicly accessible, just not - seemingly for the purpose of protecting the departments from public scrutiny - are more than just minor public relations problems for the departments... they undermine public trust.
In my opinion, the more transparent, the better.
Two links, same story:
Tea drinkers, beware
Discarded tea leaves, false positive drug tests
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03-26-14 05:09 PM - Post#167025
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Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.
The problem is, the people heck bent on excusing police and politicians because they have a "tough" job are trading my freedom away right along with theirs.
And they are winning.
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03-27-14 09:57 AM - Post#167033
In response to Jimi Ray Clapton
In my view, these kinds of stories are related, in a general way, to the original topic.
Along side a "militarization" of police forces, there seems to be an element of unaccountability when mistakes are made and a sort of "above the law" aspect. Along with instances of excessive force, I think occurrences of police not wanting themselves video recorded by bystanders as well as legislation making certain information that should absolutely be publicly accessible, just not - seemingly for the purpose of protecting the departments from public scrutiny - are more than just minor public relations problems for the departments... they undermine public trust.
In my opinion, the more transparent, the better.
Two links, same story:
Tea drinkers, beware
Discarded tea leaves, false positive drug tests
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04-09-14 04:40 PM - Post#167482
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Today, I actually witnessed an officer shoot a woman in a stopped car. I cannot say I seen a justified shooting as she was the passenger and the car was surrounded by 20 police vehicles. It was a chaotic seen with dozens of amped up officers itchin to shoot someone. Not a good place to be. In all actuality, I hope I'm wrong about the justification, but I seen nothing to justify the shooting and I was just 30 feet away.
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04-09-14 05:02 PM - Post#167486
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Today, I actually witnessed an officer shoot a woman in a stopped car. I cannot say I seen a justified shooting as she was the passenger and the car was surrounded by 20 police vehicles. It was a chaotic seen with dozens of amped up officers itchin to shoot someone. Not a good place to be. In all actuality, I hope I'm wrong about the justification, but I seen nothing to justify the shooting and I was just 30 feet away.
You make the men and women in uniform, out to protect us, look so bad.
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04-09-14 05:06 PM - Post#167487
In response to Allensince1993
Today, I actually witnessed an officer shoot a woman in a stopped car. I cannot say I seen a justified shooting as she was the passenger and the car was surrounded by 20 police vehicles. It was a chaotic seen with dozens of amped up officers itchin to shoot someone. Not a good place to be. In all actuality, I hope I'm wrong about the justification, but I seen nothing to justify the shooting and I was just 30 feet away.
You make the men and women in uniform, out to protect us, look so bad.
They do a pretty good job of that on their own. It's a whole new world we're living in now. In my childhood, police weren't required to look like gestapo. Today we have a far more testosterone driven police presence. Goes along with the hyper-militarization.
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04-09-14 07:12 PM - Post#167493
In response to PartyOfEight
Today, I actually witnessed an officer shoot a woman in a stopped car. I cannot say I seen a justified shooting as she was the passenger and the car was surrounded by 20 police vehicles. It was a chaotic seen with dozens of amped up officers itchin to shoot someone. Not a good place to be. In all actuality, I hope I'm wrong about the justification, but I seen nothing to justify the shooting and I was just 30 feet away.
You make the men and women in uniform, out to protect us, look so bad.
They do a pretty good job of that on their own. It's a whole new world we're living in now. In my childhood, police weren't required to look like gestapo. Today we have a far more testosterone driven police presence. Goes along with the hyper-militarization.
I will say this: the new chief loves the patrol out and about pulling people over. 121 Eastbound, 75 Northbound, and Exchange in full force. I'd love to think it's for safety 'only' but pulling in that revenue must be helping somewhere.
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04-09-14 07:16 PM - Post#167494
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Washington, Iowa gets a Tank
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04-24-14 02:40 PM - Post#167926
In response to pup
Wylie recently got an MRAP.
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04-24-14 03:55 PM - Post#167932
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I wouldn't be surprised to see a International MaxxPro MRAP in Allen one day.
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04-24-14 03:57 PM - Post#167933
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Well, the jaywalking problem IS getting out of hand.
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06-18-14 03:09 PM - Post#169193
In response to pup
Texas cops shoot handcuffed suspect to death.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/video-surfaces-of- texas...
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06-18-14 04:34 PM - Post#169194
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People will justify this too. Wait for it. The governed refuse to be anything less than completely governed.
The concept of something else will be met with violent resistance.
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06-21-14 08:16 AM - Post#169251
In response to pup
Here's an interesting one. Cops in Miami beat the hell out of a young man with Downs Syndrome because of a bulge under his shirt. It was his colostomy bag.
If we don't start doing a better job integrating these war hardened vets back into civilian, civilized society, we're going to be seeing daily stories like this. They're operating in that unaccountable, them against us mindset they had to have to survive in Baghdad.
http://libertycrier.com/22-year-old-syndrome- beate...
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06-26-14 06:56 AM - Post#169393
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If interested in putting this subject into perspective, "like" the Facebook group CopBlock or go to their page http://nblo.gs/XWXxL. When looking at video footage from around the country, it's easy to see we have a huge problem in this country. I don't know of a single country that has militarized its civilian forces to the degree we have and had a positive outcome. I wonder how Egypt and Thailand feel about it.
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06-26-14 05:24 PM - Post#169405
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This should scare the hell out of us all.
http://thefreethoughtproj ect.com/regional-swat-squ...
Regional SWAT squad claims it is a private organization, not subject to public records law
PivacySOS.org
June 26, 2014
Today the ACLU released a major report, tracking the militarization of the police in the United States. The report found, among other startling things, that only 7 percent of the 800 SWAT raids studied occurred in hostage and barricade situations and against active shooters. The vast majority were related to drugs. In what probably won’t come as a shock to black and brown people, the majority of these SWAT raids executed to serve drug warrants were against people of color.
Here in Massachusetts, we also released a report on the same subject. Unfortunately, it is very slim on SWAT raid details. One of the reasons it is so slim on these details is because the cops, when asked for after-action reports and statistics on raids, claimed they didn’t have them, that it would be too expensive to compile them, or that they didn’t have to obey public records law.
Record scratch. That can’t be right.
That’s why today we are also filing suit against one such regional SWAT team, called NEMLEC. This is a regional law enforcement council that maintains not just a SWAT squad but other militarized police type stuff, like a motorcycle unit and a BearCat armored truck.
When we asked NEMLEC (and the other law enforcement councils in Massachusetts) for records about their SWAT policies and deployments, we were startled to receive this response: we don’t have to give you documents because we aren’t government agencies.
Say what?
The law enforcement councils in our state are staffed by public police officials, sustained by government grants, and oversee law enforcement operations that involve busting down people’s doors and arresting them. And they want to claim these entities are private, and therefore not subject to open records law?
That doesn’t fly, and it can’t be right. As my colleague Jessie Rossman, staff attorney here, said, “NEMLEC can’t have it both ways. Either it is a public entity subject to public records laws, or what it is doing is illegal.”
Read more about the lawsuit, and stay tuned. We hope we will soon learn much more about how SWAT raids are executed in Massachusetts, and for what reasons.
That transparency is really critical. After all, only then can we begin to have an informed conversation about how these militarized raids are affecting our communities on a mass scale, and what public policy reforms should look like.
This article was originally published on privacysos.org
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06-29-14 03:51 PM - Post#169443
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And then...with this new 2Bil request for dealing with the border crisis....how will this be used?
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07-08-14 07:19 AM - Post#169587
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Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.
The problem is, the people heck bent on excusing police and politicians because they have a "tough" job are trading my freedom away right along with theirs.
And they are winning.
And a lot of what contributes to the problem, IMHO, boils down to the citizens of this great nation simply sitting by and letting it happen. People who do not vote, do not have any civic involvement, do not voice any dissent outside Facebook or these type of forums, and then wonder why our once great nation is going down the crapper. Unfortunately it would appear that the newer generation is more concerned about the latest iPhone or new app and are clueless on what the three branches of the government are and who is "running" them. Yes there are some exceptions but I fear not enough to make me comfortable with my future. I was raised a simple farm boy but my father, who served in WWII in England and was only an 8th grade graduate, taught me to be civic minded and involved. Since then I served 23 years in the military and have always been involved in some manner in the community I have lived in.
Accountability across every aspect of life these days is a problem, people need to get off their butts and start holding not only elected and appointed officials accountable but also people in other "leadership" roles, I will leave you to fill in the blanks. The biggest life lesson the military taught me was to be accountable for my actions, if I screwed up then admit it, learn from it and move on and expect the same from my peers and leaders. That will gain you respect vs the contempt of being the "teflon guy" who ducks and jives around any accountability or responsibility.
I will not step down from my soapbox and move on.....
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07-09-14 09:40 AM - Post#169627
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And now legal theft by the police departments.
Cops Use Traffic Stops To Seize Millions From Drivers Never Charged With A Crime
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07-11-14 08:37 AM - Post#169675
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Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.
The problem is, the people heck bent on excusing police and politicians because they have a "tough" job are trading my freedom away right along with theirs.
And they are winning.
And a lot of what contributes to the problem, IMHO, boils down to the citizens of this great nation simply sitting by and letting it happen. People who do not vote, do not have any civic involvement, do not voice any dissent outside Facebook or these type of forums, and then wonder why our once great nation is going down the crapper. Unfortunately it would appear that the newer generation is more concerned about the latest iPhone or new app and are clueless on what the three branches of the government are and who is "running" them. Yes there are some exceptions but I fear not enough to make me comfortable with my future. I was raised a simple farm boy but my father, who served in WWII in England and was only an 8th grade graduate, taught me to be civic minded and involved. Since then I served 23 years in the military and have always been involved in some manner in the community I have lived in.
Accountability across every aspect of life these days is a problem, people need to get off their butts and start holding not only elected and appointed officials accountable but also people in other "leadership" roles, I will leave you to fill in the blanks. The biggest life lesson the military taught me was to be accountable for my actions, if I screwed up then admit it, learn from it and move on and expect the same from my peers and leaders. That will gain you respect vs the contempt of being the "teflon guy" who ducks and jives around any accountability or responsibility.
I will not step down from my soapbox and move on.....
I completely agree with your points, but I'd just like to see what the court of public opinion would say about any person going to the city council to publicly complain about our police in Allen. There's a very strong Caucasian element who don't experience the constant harassment from police and therefor refuse to acknowledge it.
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Brewer
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07-17-14 01:16 PM - Post#169801
In response to PartyOfEight
http://reason.com/blog/2014/07/17/cop-s hoots-17-ye...
Be sure to read what got her canned from her last gig.
A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week.
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PartyOfEight
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07-19-14 02:09 PM - Post#169838
In response to Brewer
Bill Maher closed his show last night with an exceptional rant on the militarization of civilian police. He makes some excellent points that are now being echoed by both my progressive and libertarian friends alike. I'd sure like to see both sides come together on these issues. Combined, things could actually change.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/maher-rails-agains t-mil...
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