PartyOfEight
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03-03-14 05:13 PM - Post#166591
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Police allegedly smell meth, raid home, execute 80 y/o man and cremate him before family can claim the body. No meth, no meth operations, just an old man awaken by masked thugs. We can do this every day. It's not made up. We have a problem in this country. Maybe it's 11 years of war and lord knows executing civilians in Iraq seems to be a prerequisite for policing in America.
http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/16/police-sme ll-met...
video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZFlIK-zAO8#t =27
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PartyOfEight
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03-03-14 07:20 PM - Post#166593
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The investigative reporting show Faultlines has an amazing series of reports on the subjects. This so violates the constitution and military force against civilians. This report could scare you.
http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows/fault-lin ...
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PartyOfEight
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03-15-14 11:26 AM - Post#166819
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Unarmed airman shot in gut by Alabama police as he lay on ground following traffic accident
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/03/12/unarmed -airm...
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mgrayar
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03-15-14 04:51 PM - Post#166824
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I wasn't familiar with that site, but here is another story on it. Some other facts seem to complicate the issue. http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/2014/03/14/3002443/op elika-police-chief-office r-used.html
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03-15-14 10:18 PM - Post#166831
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Missingchico! I knew I recognized the ignorance! Changed the name but nothing else.
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mgrayar
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03-16-14 08:52 AM - Post#166835
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The story is bad enough without making false claims. The police did not, and do not cremate body's after investigations. The article states that the body was released to a family member who had it cremated. The wife didn't support cremation, but that sounds like family dysfunction.
All these stories are terrible incidents. However, how are you relating it back to the original topic? I didn't think this thread was about all these unfortunate incidents, rather the militarization of police forces. I don't see much in the recent articles you posted to suggest that these incidents were led to by the topic you originally presented.
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03-21-14 02:22 PM - Post#166956
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http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21 599349-americas-police-ha ve-become-too-militarised -cops-or-soldiers
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03-22-14 10:50 AM - Post#166964
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http://krqe.com/2014/03/21/apd-office r-involved-sh...
This will make you sick.
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Jimi Ray Clapton
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03-23-14 09:06 AM - Post#166968
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Cops or soldiers? America’s police have become too militarised
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03-23-14 10:08 AM - Post#166970
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What the police are faced with
http://youtu.be/HU0bMxqc5HI
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PartyOfEight
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03-24-14 06:36 PM - Post#166996
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Police go into this business knowing there is a possibility of encountering a violent suspect, however I do not believe it condones the execution of unarmed people in their own homes over petty crimes to begin with. These police agencies now use the same tactics as our soldiers did going house to house in Baghdad. Too many innocents were killed in Iraq using these strong arm tactics and US citizens are being treated as war enemies in a war the victims are not participating in. I'll never agree with this use of force even at the expense of a few police officers. At least they knew what they volunteered for. Innocent men, women and children are being executed simply responding to their front doors being kicked in. Sounds like the old propaganda we used to hear about countries like the U.S.S.R.
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03-25-14 08:48 AM - Post#166998
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Guilty until proven dead.
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03-26-14 04:28 PM - Post#167023
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In my view, these kinds of stories are related, in a general way, to the original topic.
Along side a "militarization" of police forces, there seems to be an element of unaccountability when mistakes are made and a sort of "above the law" aspect. Along with instances of excessive force, I think occurrences of police not wanting themselves video recorded by bystanders as well as legislation making certain information that should absolutely be publicly accessible, just not - seemingly for the purpose of protecting the departments from public scrutiny - are more than just minor public relations problems for the departments... they undermine public trust.
In my opinion, the more transparent, the better.
Two links, same story:
Tea drinkers, beware
Discarded tea leaves, false positive drug tests
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03-26-14 05:09 PM - Post#167025
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Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.
The problem is, the people heck bent on excusing police and politicians because they have a "tough" job are trading my freedom away right along with theirs.
And they are winning.
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03-27-14 09:57 AM - Post#167033
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In my view, these kinds of stories are related, in a general way, to the original topic.
Along side a "militarization" of police forces, there seems to be an element of unaccountability when mistakes are made and a sort of "above the law" aspect. Along with instances of excessive force, I think occurrences of police not wanting themselves video recorded by bystanders as well as legislation making certain information that should absolutely be publicly accessible, just not - seemingly for the purpose of protecting the departments from public scrutiny - are more than just minor public relations problems for the departments... they undermine public trust.
In my opinion, the more transparent, the better.
Two links, same story:
Tea drinkers, beware
Discarded tea leaves, false positive drug tests
More evidence Kansas should be the last place people should consider living.
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04-09-14 04:40 PM - Post#167482
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Today, I actually witnessed an officer shoot a woman in a stopped car. I cannot say I seen a justified shooting as she was the passenger and the car was surrounded by 20 police vehicles. It was a chaotic seen with dozens of amped up officers itchin to shoot someone. Not a good place to be. In all actuality, I hope I'm wrong about the justification, but I seen nothing to justify the shooting and I was just 30 feet away.
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04-09-14 05:02 PM - Post#167486
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Today, I actually witnessed an officer shoot a woman in a stopped car. I cannot say I seen a justified shooting as she was the passenger and the car was surrounded by 20 police vehicles. It was a chaotic seen with dozens of amped up officers itchin to shoot someone. Not a good place to be. In all actuality, I hope I'm wrong about the justification, but I seen nothing to justify the shooting and I was just 30 feet away.
You make the men and women in uniform, out to protect us, look so bad.
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PartyOfEight
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04-09-14 05:06 PM - Post#167487
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Today, I actually witnessed an officer shoot a woman in a stopped car. I cannot say I seen a justified shooting as she was the passenger and the car was surrounded by 20 police vehicles. It was a chaotic seen with dozens of amped up officers itchin to shoot someone. Not a good place to be. In all actuality, I hope I'm wrong about the justification, but I seen nothing to justify the shooting and I was just 30 feet away.
You make the men and women in uniform, out to protect us, look so bad.
They do a pretty good job of that on their own. It's a whole new world we're living in now. In my childhood, police weren't required to look like gestapo. Today we have a far more testosterone driven police presence. Goes along with the hyper-militarization.
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04-09-14 07:12 PM - Post#167493
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Today, I actually witnessed an officer shoot a woman in a stopped car. I cannot say I seen a justified shooting as she was the passenger and the car was surrounded by 20 police vehicles. It was a chaotic seen with dozens of amped up officers itchin to shoot someone. Not a good place to be. In all actuality, I hope I'm wrong about the justification, but I seen nothing to justify the shooting and I was just 30 feet away.
You make the men and women in uniform, out to protect us, look so bad.
They do a pretty good job of that on their own. It's a whole new world we're living in now. In my childhood, police weren't required to look like gestapo. Today we have a far more testosterone driven police presence. Goes along with the hyper-militarization.
I will say this: the new chief loves the patrol out and about pulling people over. 121 Eastbound, 75 Northbound, and Exchange in full force. I'd love to think it's for safety 'only' but pulling in that revenue must be helping somewhere.
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04-09-14 07:16 PM - Post#167494
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Washington, Iowa gets a Tank
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