allengal
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07-02-07 08:32 PM - Post#24540
My teen got a speeding ticket, she was going VERY fast, so defensive driving is not an automatic option, and we have a court date set. I know there are numerous advertisers that fix tickets, wondered if anyone had a recommendation of an attorney that they had success with in a similar situation so I dont have to take a chance on a yellow pages advertiser. I am hoping since it is first offense that we can get her in defensive driving. Any suggestions appreciated!
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MissingChico
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07-02-07 09:01 PM - Post#24541
In response to allengal
By any chance, does she drive a Mitsubishi Eclipse? If so, I'd let her learn this lesson the hard way. Just sayin.
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jman
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07-02-07 09:24 PM - Post#24547
In response to MissingChico
kid gets a speeding ticket for going "very fast" and you are going to take care of it with a lawyer?
thats some good parenting.
I'm sure that will help with the whole learning your lesson thing.
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allengal
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07-02-07 10:20 PM - Post#24550
In response to jman
WOW! I am trying to be a good parent. I think defensive driving will teach her more about being a safe driver, the perils of speed etc than writing a check. She wanted to just pay the ticket at the window. I am making her face the system by showing up in court and seeking training on how to be a better driver. I do not want the lawyer to get the ticket dismissed, I want the lawyer to get defensive driving as a remedy. This was her first ticket in 2 years of driving. We are having some family issues and she was upset at the time and taking it out on the gas pedal of yes, a mitsubishi eclipse....how did you know?
Edited by allengal on 07-02-07 10:22 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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bsnelson
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07-02-07 10:48 PM - Post#24553
In response to allengal
Just out of curiosity, what is "VERY fast"? Are we talking about 60 in a 30, or are we talking about 100 in a 70? The difference may be significant.
Also, for what it's worth, I support your solution to a bad problem. However, I would consider it a "two strikes and you're out" situation - if it happens again, she's on her own.
Brad
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smu03
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07-02-07 10:53 PM - Post#24554
In response to allengal
OK, I gotta know how you guessed it was an Eclipse as well...what's the story?
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Levansfour
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07-03-07 08:22 AM - Post#24557
In response to smu03
I want to know what differnce it makes in what car she was driving? And how did you know what she was driving?
My son got a speeding ticket recently and he has to show up in court, he is only 16 so it is required.
He would like to just pay it as well. But defensive driving course is what i want him to do as well. For the record he was driving a truck.
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nomoon
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07-03-07 09:12 AM - Post#24559
In response to smu03
This post on Irresponsible Drivers contains an account of a Mitsubishi Eclipse driving recklessly by an elementary school and through a neighborhood. The car was described as: "...An older turquoise(sp?) eclipse, that had a big pink Allen High School A on the back, being driven by a high school age girl accompanied by a girl friend of hers came flying up behind me..."
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JeffB
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07-03-07 09:26 AM - Post#24560
In response to allengal
If you truly want her to learn a lesson, let her go before the judge and plead guilty. Odds are good she'll get the fine and defensive driving. If not, you make her take defensive driving if she ever wants to see tht car again!
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vrs
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07-03-07 12:23 PM - Post#24566
In response to allengal
When I have needed an attorney for something, I have a confidential conversation with the attorney who handles business matters for me and he is kind enough to refer me to someone if it is not a matter he feels comfortable dealing with. He is kind of my legal PCP.
I would recommend you ask you own attorney (perhaps the person who did your will) for a referral. I think you are wise not to choose someone from the yellow pages.
Failing that, I am sending you a p.m. of someone whom I think may do this kind of work. But I can't recommend him as I have not personally used him.
To view my message to you (I think) click on the "My Controls" tab and then click on "View Private Topics"
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Nando
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07-03-07 12:27 PM - Post#24567
In response to nomoon
This post on Irresponsible Drivers contains an account of a Mitsubishi Eclipse driving recklessly by an elementary school and through a neighborhood. The car was described as: "...An older turquoise(sp?) eclipse, that had a big pink Allen High School A on the back, being driven by a high school age girl accompanied by a girl friend of hers came flying up behind me..."
Wow, if this is the same driver, sounds like they will be getting plenty of tickets!
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MissingChico
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07-03-07 06:41 PM - Post#24575
In response to allengal
Well, where do I start? I have to assume as a parent, the multiple entries describing your daughters behavior behind the wheel would be of considerable concern. It should be!
If your daughter is the same person I've experienced, you better sit down. While driving west on Bethany, your daughter tailed me at a very unsafe distance for about a half mile. I simply took my foot off the gas pedal and slowed to a speed she didn't like. She made multiple unsafe, aggressive lane changes with no regard to anyone. Once at the 75 service road, she literally blew the light making a right turn. My comment to my wife was "that little B is going to kill someone". The following week, I was driving north on the 75 service road from Bethany when I was again passed at a ridiculous speed by you know who. I actually got the pleasure of watching Allen PD pull her over at N. Allen Dr. I almost honked.
I'm sorry, you may be wanting to be a good parent, but anything short of taking away the keys and selling that car is irresponsible. Had I ever caught wind of any one of my many children driving in such an aggressive, irresponsible way, they would not see the drivers side of a car until age 18 and 1 day. If the girl I witnessed is your daughter, she lacks any maturity necessary to be anything other than a danger to herself and anyone else she encounters on the roadway. Sorry it seems harsh, but considering people have actually taken time to report her behavior in an open forum prior to you asking your "how do I get her off?" question, I can't be anything but blunt enough to get through to you. I've been on the rescue end of too many irresponsible drivers. Driving is not her right, it's a privilege. Princess needs to walk.
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07-03-07 10:43 PM - Post#24583
In response to allengal
If it were my child he would lose his car keys. I would do it out of love and concern, not to punish. I would realize that he was not ready for the responsibility of operating a lethal weapon (car). I would never forgive myself if my child were to kill another person or die himself all because I would not take away the car keys. That would be a lesson I would gladly give him.
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allengal
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07-04-07 08:41 AM - Post#24590
In response to MissingChico
WOW!!! Lets clear this up ASAP!!!!!! That was NOT my daughter in the eclipse you describe, not by a long shot. She has been driving 2 years without a single pull over or ticket. She is responsible and I feel a good driver. She was on the service road of central, had just exited the highway, and was traveling at faster than the speedlimit, she was at 71 in a 40. She has not been terrorizing allen and other drivers, and she has only had this car 2 months, and it is brand new. Because she is 17 the officer informed her she did not need to inform her parents, she could have handled this alone. But she was so disraught over our family issue, and then getting stopped, she was absolutely sobbing when she called, it was like the straw that broke the camels back. She is starting college in the fall, and right now we want her to focus on studies, not on working this semester, so she will not have a job this fall. Kids pay very high insurance rates, hers is 247 a month, thats a lot of hours at minimum wage. She is a bit of princess, but a princess whose job is working with special needs children, for 2 years now, and really making a difference and many breakthroughs with autistic kids and other kids who do not communicate, her love and attention and consistency have changed their lives. THAT IS WHY I WANT HER TO DO DEFENSIVE DRIVING. I am not looking to make her mistake go away, or fix it for her. I am looking for her to face the consequences and take constructive action that will make her a better driving going forward. Sorry for the long post, but I felt the need to defend her and myself, and to clear up that it is not her in the blue mitsubishi terrorizing allen. Also, she has to show up in court at 8am on the morning after her 18th birthday...so that in itself is part of the lesson.
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Mvpo
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07-04-07 09:19 AM - Post#24593
In response to allengal
WOW allengal your insurance premium is sky high. I have insurance through State Farm on my 17 y/o daughter. She drives a 2007 Mazda RX8 (read sports car) and our premium for her is 140 a month. Hopefully she will get a 15% discount for good grades starting this month. So that would knock her insurance down to 119 a month.
We do have our house and two other vehicles through SF so we do get multiple line discounts etc.
It just seems like an awful high premium.
By the way I think you are handling this quite nicely. I would do the same.
Myra
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doglover
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07-04-07 11:30 AM - Post#24600
In response to allengal
Allen gal, I also have a 17 year old daughter that got a ticket. At the time she got the ticket she was 16 so I had to go to court with her. When we went before the judge he gave her the option of defensive or teen court. We choose teen court. They have a teen court coordinator that sets up a court date for her. She has to go before a jury of other teens and plead quilty and they decide on how many hours of community service she has to do to work off the ticket. She will have 90 days to complete it. We had to pay $100. in court cost to do it. If she doesn't do it then she has to pay the remaining balance of the ticket and they will report it on the insurance. I thought this was a better option then defensive driving because she will have to work harder then she would the defensive driving. Plus it also is taking up some of her summer social life which is really a good consequence of a teenager. Hope this helps.
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deborah
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07-04-07 11:34 AM - Post#24602
In response to Mvpo
Both of my sons when they were in their teens paid insurance premiums around 250 a month. We also had multiple policy discounts.
Just to let you know, I think you are handling this situation very well. It is her first ticket and hopefully has learned a lesson. You may consider having her take defensive driving regardless of the outcome. While we all do see alot of irresponsible teen drivers, I think it is unfair that all teens are put into this same classification. Good Luck.
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allen
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07-04-07 11:57 AM - Post#24603
In response to Mvpo
WOW allengal your insurance premium is sky high. I have insurance through State Farm on my 17 y/o daughter. She drives a 2007 Mazda RX8 (read sports car) and our premium for her is 140 a month. Hopefully she will get a 15% discount for good grades starting this month. So that would knock her insurance down to 119 a month.
We do have our house and two other vehicles through SF so we do get multiple line discounts etc.
It just seems like an awful high premium.
It's probably extra high on an Eclipse because they are typically driven by teenagers and often riced out and raced. Probably an abnormally high rate of accidents in that model.
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vrs
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07-04-07 12:31 PM - Post#24605
In response to allen
I realize the topic is drifting here, but my agent told me that the high dollar part of the policy for a teenager is the liability. This is a conversation we had almost a decade ago. Then he told me what the premium would be for my teenaged son and I choked.
Here is the important part of the post. I had been with this insurance company for 20 years. We had auto, home, life, boat all with the same company. Every multiple discount you could think of applied. Lowest risk premium group. You would think we would have been quoted a favorable rate.
Sooooo, I told him that premium was unacceptable. Then I found a new agent with the same company and told him I would yank the auto insurance and leave them stuck with the homeowner's if he couldn't do better. Guess what - he did better. A lot better.
Ask your friends what they are paying and then negotiate. Also, things like the dollar amount of deductible can impact rates a lot.
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Mvpo
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07-04-07 12:40 PM - Post#24606
In response to vrs
allengal was there a speed limit sign displayed between where she exited and where she was stopped?
I have made exits/entrances where the signs were down for various reasons and would sometimes drive miles before I would see a sign telling me the posted speed limit.
Just a thought.
Myra
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