tamud1
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Loc: Allen, TX
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08-24-11 04:50 PM - Post#137477
I read in the Dallas paper that chief rushing is foing to retire at the end of January. As a former member of the APD I think it is about time. Maybe now the department will get someone who knows how to run a police department, does not play favorites, will get rid of the "yes men" and especially the one big "yes woman" and stop the leaving of good officers.
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MCAdventures
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Loc: East Allen #1
Reg: 08-06-04
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09-12-11 11:38 AM - Post#138778
In response to tamud1
Cities are good a priming someone from within - who they want and where they want them. Just sayin' - I hope for the sake of the force (NOT Starwars) they get a well respected, honorable chief to lead them in the right direction! One who is not afraid to deal with the bad seeds and doesn't have any "special interest" hanging over them.
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Dagwood
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Reg: 09-09-11
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09-12-11 12:03 PM - Post#138781
In response to tamud1
I don't know APD well since I just moved here. I also don't have a criminal record. But, knowing Chief Rushing is retiring makes me wish former Dallas Chief Kunkle was still in position. I'd almost write and encourage him to apply here. However, I don't think that would happen since he is retired. Perhaps if someone similar to his character and reputation (I've only heard good about him) were to apply, that might make some differences for those who express dissatisfaction with our PD...
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vm7mm
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Loc: Allen Tx usa
Reg: 08-12-04
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09-14-11 11:24 AM - Post#138956
In response to tamud1
I read in the Dallas paper that chief rushing is foing to retire at the end of January. As a former member of the APD I think it is about time. Maybe now the department will get someone who knows how to run a police department, does not play favorites, will get rid of the "yes men" and especially the one big "yes woman" and stop the leaving of good officers.
Just curious, do you mind telling us why you left and what you didn't like about the department?
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civicminded
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Loc: Lone Star State
Reg: 04-24-02
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09-14-11 11:37 AM - Post#138957
In response to Dagwood
Re: Kunkle or any other examples, most of these folks are like me in the other side of Public Safety...we're always on the lookout for an opportunity. One can wonder if he is seeking a different city or who else might be? Whether any Chief change satisfies some individuals or not, it's life moving on, and will be interesting.
Edited by civicminded on 09-14-11 11:38 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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tamud1
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Loc: Allen, TX
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11-05-11 10:36 PM - Post#141814
In response to vm7mm
I was forced to resign from the department because I voiced my opinion of the department on here and was told by Internal Affairs that I violated General Orders by discussing the department via an open forum. Most of the officers that have left APD were forced out because they got on the "bad side" of a certain female captain in Internal Affairs.
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vm7mm
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11-06-11 10:00 AM - Post#141828
In response to tamud1
Post as been removed.
Forum rules state,
"Potentially slanderous or libelous posts or potentially false claims about any business, company, group, organization or individual."
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Edited by Webmaster on 11-06-11 08:24 PM. Reason for edit: see above
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Brewer
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11-06-11 10:25 AM - Post#141829
In response to vm7mm
It is not JUSTICE but JUST-US.
A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week.
-GEN George S. Patton
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vm7mm
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Loc: Allen Tx usa
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11-06-11 11:20 AM - Post#141834
In response to tamud1
Also, I wish you the best on your future employment since leaving APD.
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vm7mm
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Loc: Allen Tx usa
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11-06-11 12:16 PM - Post#141841
In response to Brewer
Yep, hopefully they will get a new chief that will make some drastic changes.
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civicminded
Community Guide
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Loc: Lone Star State
Reg: 04-24-02
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11-06-11 08:53 PM - Post#141856
In response to vm7mm
Yep, hopefully they will get a new chief that will make some drastic changes.
All of us that deal with Chief officers always long for one to make changes, or discontinue improper practices internally.....one might say about political entities however, is that business as usual may result if powers that be are tolerant of Chiefs and their practices. Tolerant, or worse....! But Happy retirement I say to anyone moving on.
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civicminded
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Loc: Lone Star State
Reg: 04-24-02
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11-07-11 12:04 AM - Post#141866
In response to quitcherwhining
That's of course a possibility. I won't take sides. Back to hobby forums, g'nite. 
Edited by civicminded on 11-07-11 12:05 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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quitcherwhining
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Reg: 10-01-11
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11-07-11 12:11 PM - Post#141901
In response to civicminded
I guess my post was removed. I was simply adding another point of view using information that has been made more than public. It seems one can go on and on about how bad the police department is but when someone points out that those opinions may be a little biased, their post is removed. Hmmmm. Maybe I should just rail on everything from the police to the schools to water restrictions and get my post count up so my views aren't so readily dismissed.
Edited by quitcherwhining on 11-07-11 12:12 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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civicminded
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Loc: Lone Star State
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11-07-11 12:52 PM - Post#141905
In response to quitcherwhining
I don't have an answer about post removal, though I see that happen in other forums I'm in. In this one, owned by the webmaster and not the rest of us, it seems many times that he tolerates the views about a thing but must step in when posters appear to discredit the other member.
Perhaps a safe approach will be to post your view (agreeing or not} and not make it look personal. That's often where the thin ice is. And that's a tough one when you feel strongly about a viewpoint. Personally I think many regulars here are very far apart in some viewpoints, yet they accept other members' opportunity to post. As far as the count, that will grow if one swims here, or stop when they crawl out. So please post, and start your own topics too. And watch the weather.
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 Webmaster
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Loc: Allen, Texas
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11-07-11 01:02 PM - Post#141908
In response to quitcherwhining
Civic was correct discrediting other users. That is why the post was removed. Please focus on the discussion at hand and not the poster. This is explained in the forum rules.
Thanks for cooperating.
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quitcherwhining
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11-07-11 02:31 PM - Post#141922
In response to Webmaster
So as I understand the rules, people can allege all they want about the police department and say terribly biased things but when one points out that the most vocal of these individuals may have biases, the post will be deleted. These individuals put their personal lives out in a public forum for scrutiny so I hardly think that it was a personal attack.
My point is that no one in particular may be biased and we should not take their views as the unadulterated truth. Better?
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Webmaster
Community Manager
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Loc: Allen, Texas
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11-07-11 03:38 PM - Post#141931
In response to quitcherwhining
Perhaps you missed that I deleted the post in question?
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SB
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Reg: 09-07-03
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11-07-11 07:41 PM - Post#141950
In response to Webmaster
Perhaps you missed that I deleted the post in question?
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bergerandfries
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Reg: 12-28-11
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01-09-12 11:35 AM - Post#144118
In response to tamud1
http://www.cityofallen.org/blog/post/1593
Looks like Brian Harvey said, “I am honored to join the City of Allen team. My first objective will be to meet with departmental personnel, community members and city leadership to fully understand departmental operations and evaluate community relations.”
He said crime reduction is one of his goals. Really? Unless he can get Allenites to stop leaving laptops and valuables in cars parked outside overnight, I doubt it....
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MissingChico
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02-08-12 10:13 AM - Post#145155
In response to quitcherwhining
So as I understand the rules, people can allege all they want about the police department and say terribly biased things but when one points out that the most vocal of these individuals may have biases, the post will be deleted. These individuals put their personal lives out in a public forum for scrutiny so I hardly think that it was a personal attack.
My point is that no one in particular may be biased and we should not take their views as the unadulterated truth. Better?
I assume you just forgot that your post sounds biased as well. I recently spoke to a jewelery store owner who lost tens of thousands of dollars in a robbery. APD all but refuses to even speak to this shop owner and has done nothing but file the report since the loss was covered by insurance. Maybe if APD spent less time cursing at parents who drive safely at the high school and less time driving up revenue, many of the biased opinions would decrease. This is a relatively low crime area, APD can't have their hands too full to actually address the little crime we experience here. It's obvious things are less than harmonious in APD, every time I see two or more officers together, they're making sexist jokes about some female K9 officer or bashing their management.
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