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Username Post: Rushing Retires        (Topic#18093)
richardb 
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02-08-12 05:34 PM - Post#145169    
    In response to MissingChico

  • MissingChico Said:
I assume you just forgot that your post sounds biased as well. I recently spoke to a jewelery store owner who lost tens of thousands of dollars in a robbery. APD all but refuses to even speak to this shop owner and has done nothing but file the report since the loss was covered by insurance.
Maybe if APD spent less time cursing at parents who drive safely at the high school and less time driving up revenue, many of the biased opinions would decrease. This is a relatively low crime area, APD can't have their hands too full to actually address the little crime we experience here. It's obvious things are less than harmonious in APD, every time I see two or more officers together, they're making sexist jokes about some female K9 officer or bashing their management.


I pass.

 
vm7mm 
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02-08-12 10:12 PM - Post#145184    
    In response to vm7mm

  • vm7mm Said:
Post as been removed.

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It's to bad that some posts got removed. What was posted must have been true because I have not suffered any consequences.

 
quitcherwhining 
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02-10-12 08:16 AM - Post#145273    
    In response to MissingChico

I assume you just forgot that your post sounds biased as well. I recently spoke to a jewelery store owner who lost tens of thousands of dollars in a robbery. APD all but refuses to even speak to this shop owner and has done nothing but file the report since the loss was covered by insurance. Maybe if APD spent less time cursing at parents who drive safely at the high school and less time driving up revenue, many of the biased opinions would decrease. This is a relatively low crime area, APD can't have their hands too full to actually address the little crime we experience here. It's obvious things are less than harmonious in APD, every time I see two or more officers together, they're making sexist jokes about some female K9 officer or bashing their management.



A robbery? Why didn't this robbery make the news? It seems that if armed gunman held up a jewelry store in the safest city in Texas, it would have been newsworthy.

Every time you see two or more together...how many times have you seen this? Lastly how again do they drive up revenue? Sounds like someone is a little dramatic. Probably comes from the lack of validity.


 
Al C 
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02-10-12 09:44 AM - Post#145278    
    In response to quitcherwhining

Not everything that happens in Allen makes the Dallas news.
Al C



 
richardb 
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02-10-12 11:47 AM - Post#145304    
    In response to Al C

  • Al C Said:
Not everything that happens in Allen makes the Dallas news.



I find it difficult to believe that a robbery of "tens of thousands of dollars of jewelry" would not have made some news of some type, either broadcast or printed. If this story had any validity whatsoever, the store owner would have called out Steve Stoler and vented his story for all to hear. I personally find it hard to believe any of the other accusations/observations in the original post. They're so far fetched that it makes one wonder. Just as those who still blame Bush 3 years later for Obama's miserable performance as president, it appears the sour grapes of a chosen few will target our retired chief for their personal agendas against the department for years to come.

 
Al C 
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02-10-12 11:59 AM - Post#145307    
    In response to richardb

Good points.
Al C



 
MissingChico 
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02-10-12 12:11 PM - Post#145309    
    In response to quitcherwhining

  • quitcherwhining Said:
I assume you just forgot that your post sounds biased as well. I recently spoke to a jewelery store owner who lost tens of thousands of dollars in a robbery. APD all but refuses to even speak to this shop owner and has done nothing but file the report since the loss was covered by insurance. Maybe if APD spent less time cursing at parents who drive safely at the high school and less time driving up revenue, many of the biased opinions would decrease. This is a relatively low crime area, APD can't have their hands too full to actually address the little crime we experience here. It's obvious things are less than harmonious in APD, every time I see two or more officers together, they're making sexist jokes about some female K9 officer or bashing their management.



A robbery? Why didn't this robbery make the news? It seems that if armed gunman held up a jewelry store in the safest city in Texas, it would have been newsworthy.

Every time you see two or more together...how many times have you seen this? Lastly how again do they drive up revenue? Sounds like someone is a little dramatic. Probably comes from the lack of validity.




The ONLY thing in my statement that was incorrect was my use of the word robbery. This was in reality, a burglary which actually reinforces my statement that APD does little when the loss is insured.
I get my news from the Comedy Central and my comedy from Fox News.


 
richardb 
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02-10-12 01:10 PM - Post#145318    
    In response to MissingChico

  • MissingChico Said:
  • quitcherwhining Said:
I assume you just forgot that your post sounds biased as well. I recently spoke to a jewelery store owner who lost tens of thousands of dollars in a robbery. APD all but refuses to even speak to this shop owner and has done nothing but file the report since the loss was covered by insurance. Maybe if APD spent less time cursing at parents who drive safely at the high school and less time driving up revenue, many of the biased opinions would decrease. This is a relatively low crime area, APD can't have their hands too full to actually address the little crime we experience here. It's obvious things are less than harmonious in APD, every time I see two or more officers together, they're making sexist jokes about some female K9 officer or bashing their management.



A robbery? Why didn't this robbery make the news? It seems that if armed gunman held up a jewelry store in the safest city in Texas, it would have been newsworthy.

Every time you see two or more together...how many times have you seen this? Lastly how again do they drive up revenue? Sounds like someone is a little dramatic. Probably comes from the lack of validity.




"The ONLY thing in my statement that was incorrect was my use of the word robbery. This was in reality, a burglary which actually reinforces my statement that APD does little when the loss is insured."



Just a couple quick questions. How does changing the description from robbery to burglary reinforce your statement? Either way there was a loss of property.
And would you recommend to all businesses in Allen to NOT carry insurance, since your implication is the APD would pay more attention to those who are uninsured and less attention to those who are?


 
MissingChico 
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02-10-12 01:22 PM - Post#145320    
    In response to richardb

Not at all, my point has always been that Allen is a relatively low crime area. I think this police agency could spent more time actually solving the small amount of REAL crime rather than spending so much time ticketing nonsense low level speeding and manufacturing crime. This town has been plagued with accusations and news clips regarding this police agency and it's need to create crime to bolster grant money and tax revenue.
I get my news from the Comedy Central and my comedy from Fox News.


 
richardb 
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02-10-12 05:37 PM - Post#145333    
    In response to MissingChico

  • MissingChico Said:
Not at all, my point has always been that Allen is a relatively low crime area. I think this police agency could spent more time actually solving the small amount of REAL crime rather than spending so much time ticketing nonsense low level speeding and manufacturing crime. This town has been plagued with accusations and news clips regarding this police agency and it's need to create crime to bolster grant money and tax revenue.



Complete contradiction saying Allen is a relatively low crime area in one sentence and then implying the APD creates and/or manufactures crime. Honestly it can't be both ways and I can't wait for 5 years from now, when under the direction of a new chief, the same old dead horse is still being beat.
The definition of an accusation is a charge never proven. Outside investigation agencies have found accusations pertaining to the APD to be completely unfounded. Some policy procedures have been amended, mostly having to do with the tremendous growth within the department in the past 12 years, but nothing criminal or unethical in administration.

 
vm7mm 
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02-10-12 09:50 PM - Post#145339    
    In response to richardb

This was investigated from an outside agency and you say it is an unfounded accusation?
http://www.wfaa.com/news/crime/Two-allen- police-of...

Edited by vm7mm on 02-10-12 10:13 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
vm7mm 
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02-10-12 10:04 PM - Post#145340    
    In response to quitcherwhining

  • quitcherwhining Said:
I assume you just forgot that your post sounds biased as well. I recently spoke to a jewelery store owner who lost tens of thousands of dollars in a robbery. APD all but refuses to even speak to this shop owner and has done nothing but file the report since the loss was covered by insurance. Maybe if APD spent less time cursing at parents who drive safely at the high school and less time driving up revenue, many of the biased opinions would decrease. This is a relatively low crime area, APD can't have their hands too full to actually address the little crime we experience here. It's obvious things are less than harmonious in APD, every time I see two or more officers together, they're making sexist jokes about some female K9 officer or bashing their management.



A robbery? Why didn't this robbery make the news? It seems that if armed gunman held up a jewelry store in the safest city in Texas, it would have been newsworthy.

Every time you see two or more together...how many times have you seen this? Lastly how again do they drive up revenue? Sounds like someone is a little dramatic. Probably comes from the lack of validity.



Here's a robbery and it made the news.
http://www.examiner.com/violent-crime-in-nati onal/...

Edited by vm7mm on 02-10-12 10:10 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
vm7mm 
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02-10-12 10:19 PM - Post#145341    
    In response to vm7mm

This is good also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-k4ZSE-Xrg
We should educate ourselves and our children a little better with Texas Law.

Edited by vm7mm on 02-11-12 10:27 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
richardb 
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02-10-12 11:02 PM - Post#145342    
    In response to vm7mm

  • vm7mm Said:
This was investigated from an outside agency and you say it is an unfounded accusation?
http://www.wfaa.com/news/crime/Two-allen- police-of...



As usual with your posts, off topic come to mind, especially when it pertains to your personal vengance with the APD. What possible connection between these two officers and the manner in which they disciplined their child (which I do totally abhor) have any link whatsoever to the APD chain of command, including Chief Rushing, and the manner in which the APD in the overall department was managed? Not one mention in the story about any accusations brought forth linking the management of APD with the two officers. You've stretched beyond even your usual boundaries on this one.

 
richardb 
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02-10-12 11:08 PM - Post#145343    
    In response to vm7mm

  • vm7mm Said:
  • quitcherwhining Said:
I assume you just forgot that your post sounds biased as well. I recently spoke to a jewelery store owner who lost tens of thousands of dollars in a robbery. APD all but refuses to even speak to this shop owner and has done nothing but file the report since the loss was covered by insurance. Maybe if APD spent less time cursing at parents who drive safely at the high school and less time driving up revenue, many of the biased opinions would decrease. This is a relatively low crime area, APD can't have their hands too full to actually address the little crime we experience here. It's obvious things are less than harmonious in APD, every time I see two or more officers together, they're making sexist jokes about some female K9 officer or bashing their management.



A robbery? Why didn't this robbery make the news? It seems that if armed gunman held up a jewelry store in the safest city in Texas, it would have been newsworthy.

Every time you see two or more together...how many times have you seen this? Lastly how again do they drive up revenue? Sounds like someone is a little dramatic. Probably comes from the lack of validity.



Here's a robbery and it made the news.
http://www.examiner.com/violent-crime-in-nati onal/...



No one ever implied that there's never been a robbery in Allen and to do so would be ludicrous. The incident in mention was first described as a robbery and then MC decided it was a burgalry, but his point was if you own a business and have insurance, the APD under the leadership of Chief Rushing looks the other way as if that were a department policy. MC's story and your story have no links to each other.

 
vm7mm 
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02-10-12 11:22 PM - Post#145344    
    In response to richardb

  • richardb Said:
  • Al C Said:
Not everything that happens in Allen makes the Dallas news.



I find it difficult to believe that a robbery of "tens of thousands of dollars of jewelry" would not have made some news of some type, either broadcast or printed. If this story had any validity whatsoever, the store owner would have called out Steve Stoler and vented his story for all to hear. I personally find it hard to believe any of the other accusations/observations in the original post. They're so far fetched that it makes one wonder. Just as those who still blame Bush 3 years later for Obama's miserable performance as president, it appears the sour grapes of a chosen few will target our retired chief for their personal agendas against the department for years to come.


Wrong again


 
CRybar 
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02-12-12 06:21 PM - Post#145379    
    In response to MissingChico

I find this very hard to believe. Beside getting the offense title wrong, is there anything else that has been left out?

 
Webmaster 
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02-12-12 07:51 PM - Post#145384    
    In response to CRybar

Folks,

I highly suggest that you start a new topic.


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