Brewer
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04-24-14 02:40 PM - Post#167926
In response to pup
Wylie recently got an MRAP.
A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week.
-GEN George S. Patton
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Don4
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04-24-14 03:55 PM - Post#167932
In response to Brewer
I wouldn't be surprised to see a International MaxxPro MRAP in Allen one day.
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pup
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04-24-14 03:57 PM - Post#167933
In response to Don4
Well, the jaywalking problem IS getting out of hand.
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Brewer
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06-18-14 03:09 PM - Post#169193
In response to pup
Texas cops shoot handcuffed suspect to death.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/video-surfaces-of- texas...
A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week.
-GEN George S. Patton
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pup
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06-18-14 04:34 PM - Post#169194
In response to Brewer
People will justify this too. Wait for it. The governed refuse to be anything less than completely governed.
The concept of something else will be met with violent resistance.
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PartyOfEight
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06-21-14 08:16 AM - Post#169251
In response to pup
Here's an interesting one. Cops in Miami beat the hell out of a young man with Downs Syndrome because of a bulge under his shirt. It was his colostomy bag.
If we don't start doing a better job integrating these war hardened vets back into civilian, civilized society, we're going to be seeing daily stories like this. They're operating in that unaccountable, them against us mindset they had to have to survive in Baghdad.
http://libertycrier.com/22-year-old-syndrome- beate...
Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of a cancer cell.
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PartyOfEight
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06-26-14 06:56 AM - Post#169393
In response to PartyOfEight
If interested in putting this subject into perspective, "like" the Facebook group CopBlock or go to their page http://nblo.gs/XWXxL. When looking at video footage from around the country, it's easy to see we have a huge problem in this country. I don't know of a single country that has militarized its civilian forces to the degree we have and had a positive outcome. I wonder how Egypt and Thailand feel about it.
Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of a cancer cell.
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PartyOfEight
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06-26-14 05:24 PM - Post#169405
In response to PartyOfEight
This should scare the hell out of us all.
http://thefreethoughtproj ect.com/regional-swat-squ...
Regional SWAT squad claims it is a private organization, not subject to public records law
PivacySOS.org
June 26, 2014
Today the ACLU released a major report, tracking the militarization of the police in the United States. The report found, among other startling things, that only 7 percent of the 800 SWAT raids studied occurred in hostage and barricade situations and against active shooters. The vast majority were related to drugs. In what probably won’t come as a shock to black and brown people, the majority of these SWAT raids executed to serve drug warrants were against people of color.
Here in Massachusetts, we also released a report on the same subject. Unfortunately, it is very slim on SWAT raid details. One of the reasons it is so slim on these details is because the cops, when asked for after-action reports and statistics on raids, claimed they didn’t have them, that it would be too expensive to compile them, or that they didn’t have to obey public records law.
Record scratch. That can’t be right.
That’s why today we are also filing suit against one such regional SWAT team, called NEMLEC. This is a regional law enforcement council that maintains not just a SWAT squad but other militarized police type stuff, like a motorcycle unit and a BearCat armored truck.
When we asked NEMLEC (and the other law enforcement councils in Massachusetts) for records about their SWAT policies and deployments, we were startled to receive this response: we don’t have to give you documents because we aren’t government agencies.
Say what?
The law enforcement councils in our state are staffed by public police officials, sustained by government grants, and oversee law enforcement operations that involve busting down people’s doors and arresting them. And they want to claim these entities are private, and therefore not subject to open records law?
That doesn’t fly, and it can’t be right. As my colleague Jessie Rossman, staff attorney here, said, “NEMLEC can’t have it both ways. Either it is a public entity subject to public records laws, or what it is doing is illegal.”
Read more about the lawsuit, and stay tuned. We hope we will soon learn much more about how SWAT raids are executed in Massachusetts, and for what reasons.
That transparency is really critical. After all, only then can we begin to have an informed conversation about how these militarized raids are affecting our communities on a mass scale, and what public policy reforms should look like.
This article was originally published on privacysos.org
Read more at http://thefreethoughtproj ect.com/regional-swat-squ...
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civicminded
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06-29-14 03:51 PM - Post#169443
In response to PartyOfEight
And then...with this new 2Bil request for dealing with the border crisis....how will this be used?
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TXWayne
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07-08-14 07:19 AM - Post#169587
In response to pup
Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.
The problem is, the people heck bent on excusing police and politicians because they have a "tough" job are trading my freedom away right along with theirs.
And they are winning.
And a lot of what contributes to the problem, IMHO, boils down to the citizens of this great nation simply sitting by and letting it happen. People who do not vote, do not have any civic involvement, do not voice any dissent outside Facebook or these type of forums, and then wonder why our once great nation is going down the crapper. Unfortunately it would appear that the newer generation is more concerned about the latest iPhone or new app and are clueless on what the three branches of the government are and who is "running" them. Yes there are some exceptions but I fear not enough to make me comfortable with my future. I was raised a simple farm boy but my father, who served in WWII in England and was only an 8th grade graduate, taught me to be civic minded and involved. Since then I served 23 years in the military and have always been involved in some manner in the community I have lived in.
Accountability across every aspect of life these days is a problem, people need to get off their butts and start holding not only elected and appointed officials accountable but also people in other "leadership" roles, I will leave you to fill in the blanks. The biggest life lesson the military taught me was to be accountable for my actions, if I screwed up then admit it, learn from it and move on and expect the same from my peers and leaders. That will gain you respect vs the contempt of being the "teflon guy" who ducks and jives around any accountability or responsibility.
I will not step down from my soapbox and move on.....
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TXWayne
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07-09-14 09:40 AM - Post#169627
In response to TXWayne
And now legal theft by the police departments.
Cops Use Traffic Stops To Seize Millions From Drivers Never Charged With A Crime
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PartyOfEight
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07-11-14 08:37 AM - Post#169675
In response to TXWayne
Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.
The problem is, the people heck bent on excusing police and politicians because they have a "tough" job are trading my freedom away right along with theirs.
And they are winning.
And a lot of what contributes to the problem, IMHO, boils down to the citizens of this great nation simply sitting by and letting it happen. People who do not vote, do not have any civic involvement, do not voice any dissent outside Facebook or these type of forums, and then wonder why our once great nation is going down the crapper. Unfortunately it would appear that the newer generation is more concerned about the latest iPhone or new app and are clueless on what the three branches of the government are and who is "running" them. Yes there are some exceptions but I fear not enough to make me comfortable with my future. I was raised a simple farm boy but my father, who served in WWII in England and was only an 8th grade graduate, taught me to be civic minded and involved. Since then I served 23 years in the military and have always been involved in some manner in the community I have lived in.
Accountability across every aspect of life these days is a problem, people need to get off their butts and start holding not only elected and appointed officials accountable but also people in other "leadership" roles, I will leave you to fill in the blanks. The biggest life lesson the military taught me was to be accountable for my actions, if I screwed up then admit it, learn from it and move on and expect the same from my peers and leaders. That will gain you respect vs the contempt of being the "teflon guy" who ducks and jives around any accountability or responsibility.
I will not step down from my soapbox and move on.....
I completely agree with your points, but I'd just like to see what the court of public opinion would say about any person going to the city council to publicly complain about our police in Allen. There's a very strong Caucasian element who don't experience the constant harassment from police and therefor refuse to acknowledge it.
Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of a cancer cell.
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Brewer
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07-17-14 01:16 PM - Post#169801
In response to PartyOfEight
http://reason.com/blog/2014/07/17/cop-s hoots-17-ye...
Be sure to read what got her canned from her last gig.
A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week.
-GEN George S. Patton
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PartyOfEight
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07-19-14 02:09 PM - Post#169838
In response to Brewer
Bill Maher closed his show last night with an exceptional rant on the militarization of civilian police. He makes some excellent points that are now being echoed by both my progressive and libertarian friends alike. I'd sure like to see both sides come together on these issues. Combined, things could actually change.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/maher-rails-agains t-mil...
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