Al C
enthusiast
Posts: 5538
Loc: McKinney/Allen, TX
Reg: 02-16-01
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09-22-11 07:57 PM - Post#139479
In response to mgrayar
Ps. Al C, forget family sized, it's more like Costco sized.
 
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vm7mm
enthusiast
Posts: 1383
Loc: Allen Tx usa
Reg: 08-12-04
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09-22-11 08:28 PM - Post#139481
In response to mgrayar
Interesting article...Read the entire article...
http://www.theagitator.com/2010/02/26/texas-publ ic...
Edited by vm7mm on 09-22-11 08:35 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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vm7mm
enthusiast
Posts: 1383
Loc: Allen Tx usa
Reg: 08-12-04
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09-22-11 09:53 PM - Post#139482
In response to Brewer
Officer safety? Everyone got home right? That is what is important.
I am being just a touch sarcastic.
It looks like folks sitting on the front porch is the NEW profit center.
Guess you could call them the Legalized Mafia.
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Brewer
enthusiast
Posts: 1287
Reg: 06-02-07
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09-22-11 10:45 PM - Post#139486
In response to Happysarah
My first contact with APD was shortly after I moved here. New house,and I could not for the life of me I could not remember if I had closed the garage door. We were the only house on the block so there were no neighbors to call. I had just started an 11a-11p in the er fifteen miles away so running back home was not much of an option.
I called the PD non-emergency desk and they told me they could not send a car by and then have them call me.
Now it would have been my fault if I left the door open but what would it have cost them to send a car by and then give me a shout? It would have gone a long way toward building a little rapport.
Another time I was almost run off the road by a blacked out Charger. When I questioned the guy about it he told me "I was running code trying to catch a speeder". He had neither lights nor siren on and I was the first person to pass his speed trap. He told me he could give me a ticket if he wanted to. I told him to go ahead and the next time I would let him hit me.
On my way home from work I called about a suspected drunk driver and was told not to follow and that the pd would not send a car to intercept. I hung up after he ran into oncoming traffic after jumping the curb as he exited. I have helped Mckinney and Plano arrest three obvious drunk drivers on and around 75 in the past so I know other agencies will meet a citizen.
There was one more contact I had that I won't air in this or any other venue.
I have zero arrest record so the old bromide about me disliking the pd means I must be a criminal just does not wash. I used to work in McKinney and I know men and women from the CC Sheriff's Office, McKinney and Frisco PDs that I hold in high esteem as well as many of the Richardson PD folks that I spent time with down there.
Bottom line is I am not just a real big booster of APD.
A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week.
-GEN George S. Patton
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Dagwood
member
Posts: 83
Reg: 09-09-11
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09-23-11 06:33 AM - Post#139496
In response to Webmaster
First, when emotion overcomes someone, there's a tendency to exaggerate (one way or the other) stories when they're told to others.
What you state above is from another person's "experience." Were all details stated during the conversation between you and the neighbor? You say "long story short." Sure there are other important details in what's being cut short. One can only wonder...
What are your personal experiences with the APD?
What is the purpose of your post above? To strike up another negative conversation about the very people who are looking out to protect you, all based on a pleasant lady's experience, who wasn't having a very good day?
I'm curious to know how many of the complaints against a police officer or the department have actually been addressed through the proper chain of command, instead of merely discussing the incident on a forum such as this, or with neighbors around us.
I'm also curious to know what the history is behind those (the pleasant lady, her son, and his roommate) with such unfortunate experiences -- past criminal offenses, jail time, etc? Some who have that type of background, regardless of number of offenses or level of severety, would be the ones to express this type of disgust. I said some, not all...
Just curious...
You sure ask a lot of QUESTIONS!
Is your wife's name Blondie?
Do you have a dog named Daisy?
Is the name of your mailman, Mr. Beasley?
Is Alexander the name of your oldest child?
Is Cookie the name of your youngest child?
Is Mr. Dithers your Boss?
Just curious...
Personal attacks and flaming are not allowed and they are defined as comments that reflect upon a person instead of their opinion. Let's please get back on track.
Thank you,
Web
Yes, I do ask a lot of questions when a lot of details are left out. You said "long story short." Again, I'm sure there are plenty of details you are leaving out, whether you have them yourself or the lady only stated what she wanted you to hear.
I look forward to other details as they're made available. Until then, I have every reason to view the APD as capable of serving to protect you, your neighbors, me, and mine. If they feel the need to check something out, by all means, do it. They're doing what we pay them to do...
Thank you, Webmaster...
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civicminded
Community Guide
Posts: 9254
Loc: Lone Star State
Reg: 04-24-02
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09-23-11 08:47 AM - Post#139498
In response to Dagwood
Keep in mind this also. That while you're correct that they (any PD) serve us well as the Thin Blue Line and should not be flamed nor fellow posters be flamed according to Web's rules (he rules).....neither should you think the stories of rude responses, or lack of responses when called are made up. These do happen to Allenites. Now back to fun and non-flaming discussions.
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Maurice
Community Expert
Posts: 3981
Loc: Allen, TX
Reg: 12-03-01
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09-23-11 10:41 AM - Post#139507
In response to Brewer
That's odd that APD would tell you not to continue to follow a drunk driver. Generally, the reporting party will stay with the suspected drunk driver and will be directed by headquarters to put on their hazards so the responding unit can easily pick them out of traffic and then deal with the suspected drunk driver.
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civicminded
Community Guide
Posts: 9254
Loc: Lone Star State
Reg: 04-24-02
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09-23-11 12:39 PM - Post#139519
In response to Maurice
That's odd that APD would tell you not to continue to follow a drunk driver. Generally, the reporting party will stay with the suspected drunk driver and will be directed by headquarters to put on their hazards so the responding unit can easily pick them out of traffic and then deal with the suspected drunk driver.
Maurice is right again. I know that if possible, I always "stay" on the person/vehicle I'm calling about. It's the only way to help authorities that want to act.
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Brewer
enthusiast
Posts: 1287
Reg: 06-02-07
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09-23-11 02:48 PM - Post#139537
In response to civicminded
WANT TO ACT, being operative.
A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week.
-GEN George S. Patton
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civicminded
Community Guide
Posts: 9254
Loc: Lone Star State
Reg: 04-24-02
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09-23-11 02:55 PM - Post#139538
In response to Brewer
Haha, yeah, some are like that dispatcher in the exploding car story (national news this week), kinda ho-hum about engaging in the work. Y'all be safe out there amongst 'em.
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vm7mm
enthusiast
Posts: 1383
Loc: Allen Tx usa
Reg: 08-12-04
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09-23-11 03:37 PM - Post#139543
In response to civicminded
To no one in particular. I really wish that more of the younger crowd, teens and early 20s were posting on this forum. There would be a lot more negative responses. Mostly older people on here posting about how bad the kids are when they have no idea what they are talking about. Until you or your children have had to deal with APD, you do not understand the way they operate.
Edited by vm7mm on 09-23-11 03:43 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Rixsby
newbie
Posts: 3
Reg: 09-23-11
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09-23-11 04:39 PM - Post#139549
In response to vm7mm
Over the years I have quietly watched you attack the Allen PD. Anytime anyone posts a comment about the police you appear on the spot with your assault. It is clear that you have an axe to grind against the Allen PD and you have no creditability.
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Allenmom03
newbie
Posts: 2
Reg: 09-23-11
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09-23-11 05:11 PM - Post#139553
In response to vm7mm
I'm very new to this site but I'm in my 20's and I lived in Allen throughout my teenage years so perhaps I can add my experiences. I've had several experiences with APD throughout the years, all extremely positive.
It is true that many young people my age complain about the APD, however when you hear the whole story, the offender was generally in the wrong. You hear alot from people my age about the APD "stalking" underaged drinking parties and trying to "trap" people who are drinking and driving. Personally those are great examples of why I love the APD.
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vm7mm
enthusiast
Posts: 1383
Loc: Allen Tx usa
Reg: 08-12-04
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09-23-11 05:12 PM - Post#139554
In response to Rixsby
Over the years I have quietly watched you attack the Allen PD. Anytime anyone posts a comment about the police you appear on the spot with your assault. It is clear that you have an axe to grind against the Allen PD and you have no creditability.
Over the years, why have you not registered until today and what do you know about my credibility? It is not creditability.
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vm7mm
enthusiast
Posts: 1383
Loc: Allen Tx usa
Reg: 08-12-04
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09-23-11 05:17 PM - Post#139556
In response to Allenmom03
Ask and thy shall receive... Amazing that a newbie in her 20's just registered (20 minutes ago) and has positive comments. I figured that would happen.
Edited by vm7mm on 09-23-11 05:27 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Allenmom03
newbie
Posts: 2
Reg: 09-23-11
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09-23-11 05:34 PM - Post#139558
In response to vm7mm
I apologize if I disrupted your generalized assumption about my generation. I did begin my response by stating that I was very new to this site. I was merely adding my perspective. I for one would never assume to speak for an entire age group. I've just had positive experiences with APD & appreciate the safe town in which I live.
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Al C
enthusiast
Posts: 5538
Loc: McKinney/Allen, TX
Reg: 02-16-01
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09-23-11 06:39 PM - Post#139559
In response to vm7mm
Ask and thy shall receive... Amazing that a newbie in her 20's just registered (20 minutes ago) and has positive comments. I figured that would happen.
C'mon, VM ... that's not fair. You asked for the younger crowd to chime in. Let them have the chance without the attack.
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Happysarah
newbie
Posts: 3
Reg: 09-22-11
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09-23-11 07:00 PM - Post#139560
In response to Al C
Back to VMs original post(s)- if those arrested care to take it to court and challenge the arrest it is their right. But, will VM post the verdict? We hear all this complaining from VM about how poor APD does. If that was the case there would be firings, lawsuits, civil rights court hearings. Produce some real evidence of wrong doing by the APD instead of 500 posts that all scream the same thing.( we get it VM, you don't like the APD). APD personnel do a difficult job that requires quick thinking that gets incredibly scrutinized once the dust settles. Anyone else out there put on a bullet proof vest to go to work every day, not knowing what will happen the next hour of your job?
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vm7mm
enthusiast
Posts: 1383
Loc: Allen Tx usa
Reg: 08-12-04
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09-23-11 07:36 PM - Post#139562
In response to Al C
Ask and thy shall receive... Amazing that a newbie in her 20's just registered (20 minutes ago) and has positive comments. I figured that would happen.
C'mon, VM ... that's not fair. You asked for the younger crowd to chime in. Let them have the chance without the attack.
Fair enough, I will try and get the word out to people about this site and get their personal opinions. (None will be made up).
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Al C
enthusiast
Posts: 5538
Loc: McKinney/Allen, TX
Reg: 02-16-01
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09-23-11 07:37 PM - Post#139563
In response to vm7mm
Ask and thy shall receive... Amazing that a newbie in her 20's just registered (20 minutes ago) and has positive comments. I figured that would happen.
C'mon, VM ... that's not fair. You asked for the younger crowd to chime in. Let them have the chance without the attack.
Fair enough, I will try and get the word out to people about this site and get their personal opinions. (None will be made up).
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