richardb
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12-13-11 11:36 PM - Post#143351
In response to Al C
Interesting that after early voting, Baine had a one vote advantage over Luke and the final tally had Baine getting 85 more votes, so Baine drew 84 more supporters out today than Luke.
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Elect Tommy Baril
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12-14-11 12:13 AM - Post#143352
In response to richardb
Howdy!
It is with sincerity that I offer my congratulations to Baine and Luke for capturing the majority of votes from our fellow citizens. It is with that same sincerity that I wish them both the best of luck and that I thank four wonderful individuals (in alphabetical order) -- Baine, Barbara, Luke, and Ron -- for allowing me to share in this process with them.
There are many people that I need to thank for supporting my first effort in the political arena. However, I would be remissed to not thank the Rodenbaughs, Superior Signs (Matt Hall), CFM Communications (Chris and Trina Martin), and MyPrintChoice (Steve Clark) for their generous support. My fellow Allen residents, these are 4 Allen-based small businesses that love this community. Please consider using them in the future. Also, a special note of appreciation to a Fairview-based company, M Christopher Custom Homes.
A special note of appreciation to those of you on this site who supported my campaign, those who made sure that my statements were not misrepresented, and even those who might not have supported my campaign but didn't speak ill of me in an effort to show support for their candidate. I believe that the fine qualities that each of the 5 candidates brought to the ballot should be the measuring stick as opposed to negative aspects.
As for me, I now go back to where I started one month ago -- to God, to my wife, to my children, and to serving the community....because it is a part of my DNA.
God Bless! Gig 'em!
Tommy
God Bless! Gig 'em!
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12-14-11 12:31 AM - Post#143353
In response to Elect Tommy Baril
Tommy,
I appreciate that you took the time to use Allen Online to help get Allen residents to learn about you and your campaign. Thank you for your service, and thanks to all the candidates for standing up.
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SB
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12-14-11 08:09 AM - Post#143356
In response to Webmaster
Tommy,
Hope the example you set for candidate participation in an accessible, open public forum takes root and is more common in the future. Thanks for your candidacy.
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Al C
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12-14-11 09:25 AM - Post#143358
In response to richardb
Interesting that after early voting, Baine had a one vote advantage over Luke and the final tally had Baine getting 85 more votes, so Baine drew 84 more supporters out today than Luke.
Also interesting, in a sad way, that this election was decided by less than 4% of the registered voters. The runoff will probably draw even fewer to the polls.
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richardb
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12-14-11 10:32 AM - Post#143360
In response to Al C
Interesting that after early voting, Baine had a one vote advantage over Luke and the final tally had Baine getting 85 more votes, so Baine drew 84 more supporters out today than Luke.
Also interesting, in a sad way, that this election was decided by less than 4% of the registered voters. The runoff will probably draw even fewer to the polls.
Traditionally, with such low turnout, those who supported someone other than Baine and Luke, will now lose interest since their candidates are no longer involved. Getting those to come back to the polls will be the biggest challenge for each candidate. Elections that do not have a mayoral election or multiple council/school board positions up for grab simply do not draw much interest.
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rw
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12-14-11 11:50 AM - Post#143366
In response to richardb
Looks like the Bus Barn NIMBY crowd showed up for the one guy.
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richardb
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12-14-11 03:51 PM - Post#143372
In response to rw
Looks like the Bus Barn NIMBY crowd showed up for the one guy.
I find it amusing anyone (not intended for you personally rw) thinks this group's endorsement is something to be taken lightly. First, in an election of this type with only one vacancy, the voter apathy of Allen really shows with a low voter turn out and I'm sure all 5 candidates knew that probability. Knowing this, any one of the other 4 would have jumped all over the chance to get this group's endorsement. As a candidate, you're out there working hard every day to secure every single vote you can, whether it comes from an individual or group. And in the eventuallity an alternate site is selected for the bus barn and can only be approved by a zoning change approved by the city council, was this group so far out of line to endorse a candidate and hope they can possibly help him/her get elected in a close election?
Very dissappointed this morning when I heard that last night as soon as it became evident who would be involved in the run-off, there were those openly congratulating Baine for becoming the next city council member. How disrespectful of Luke, his family and his supporters and how disrepectful of the whole election process. Certainly something I'll keep in mind when I vote in the run-off.
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sco
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12-14-11 04:14 PM - Post#143376
In response to richardb
No group is out of line in endorsing any candidate. I do question why an AISD school board decision is an issue in the city council race. Didn't the earlier discussion about the bus barn issue indicate that the school district is exempt from zoning restrictions? It is my understanding that the project meets zoning restrictions on the currently proposed site anyway so I'm not sure that the city council has any sway on the issue. My personal opinion is that I want a candidate that wants what is best for the city as a whole and is informed on all of the issues. I typically stay away from a candidate if it appears they they are a single issue or a protest candidate. My preferred candidate didn't make the runoff so I will be evaluating the two remaining candidates.
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richardb
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12-14-11 04:58 PM - Post#143381
In response to sco
Didn't the earlier discussion about the bus barn issue indicate that the school district is exempt from zoning restrictions? It is my understanding that the project meets zoning restrictions on the currently proposed site anyway so I'm not sure that the city council has any sway on the issue. My personal opinion is that I want a candidate that wants what is best for the city as a whole and is informed on all of the issues. I typically stay away from a candidate if it appears they they are a single issue or a protest candidate.
The council may not have an influence on the proposed site. As to whether or not the school district is exempt from zoning restrictions, I have to admit I don't know about that. I haven't heard anything about Luke having a single issue or being a protest candidate. Neither candidate is informed on all the issues and neither has anything in their resume to suggest anything to the contrary. Each will face the same learning curve.
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rw
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12-14-11 05:11 PM - Post#143382
In response to richardb
Looks like the date of the special election will not be determined until the Dec 21st Council meteing...so the date may be 6 or more weeks away...
I think both candidates would do a good job. I think i'll vote for Brooks.
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richardb
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12-14-11 05:29 PM - Post#143383
In response to rw
Looks like the date of the special election will not be determined until the Dec 21st Council meteing...so the date may be 6 or more weeks away...
I think both candidates would do a good job. I think i'll vote for Brooks.
I also agree both candidates would do a good job, but we all have our own criteria and based on what I've seen and heard from both, Mr. Hollingsworth has earned my vote. I do not believe he has a personal pre-set agenda and will do the best job of representing the citizens of Allen and doesn't appear to give the appearance he believes he has already won the run-off.
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rw
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12-14-11 06:50 PM - Post#143389
In response to richardb
Looks like the date of the special election will not be determined until the Dec 21st Council meteing...so the date may be 6 or more weeks away...
I think both candidates would do a good job. I think i'll vote for Brooks.
I also agree both candidates would do a good job, but we all have our own criteria and based on what I've seen and heard from both, Mr. Hollingsworth has earned my vote. I do not believe he has a personal pre-set agenda and will do the best job of representing the citizens of Allen and doesn't believe he has already won the run-off.
So you are saying that Mr Brooks does? If that is the case, why did you say both would do a good job? Seems to be a conflicting message...
And I agree, each person should make up their own mind based on what they know about the candidates.
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nm
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12-14-11 07:27 PM - Post#143390
In response to Army Vet
Supporters of Baine Brooks: MetroPlex Gymnastics, Raison Cains, Matt's Mexican Restaurant-to name a few.
I'm now leaving this blog to use energies to support Baine Brooks in a more active way. His leadership qualities include dedication to excellence, business sense, integrity, family-orientation, community-orientation, local and school charitable giving, and gratitude for all those who supported him. So, I truly hope you will consider supporting him in the January election for Allen City Council. Thank you for letting me share my views.
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richardb
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12-14-11 11:23 PM - Post#143396
In response to rw
Looks like the date of the special election will not be determined until the Dec 21st Council meteing...so the date may be 6 or more weeks away...
I think both candidates would do a good job. I think i'll vote for Brooks.
I also agree both candidates would do a good job, but we all have our own criteria and based on what I've seen and heard from both, Mr. Hollingsworth has earned my vote. I do not believe he has a personal pre-set agenda and will do the best job of representing the citizens of Allen and doesn't believe he has already won the run-off.
So you are saying that Mr Brooks does? If that is the case, why did you say both would do a good job? Seems to be a conflicting message...
And I agree, each person should make up their own mind based on what they know about the candidates.
Please read the whole post and not just the part you want to highlite.
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MikeC
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12-15-11 01:16 AM - Post#143400
In response to richardb
I also agree both candidates would do a good job, but we all have our own criteria and based on what I've seen and heard from both, Mr. Hollingsworth has earned my vote. I do not believe he has a personal pre-set agenda and will do the best job of representing the citizens of Allen and doesn't appear to give the appearance he believes he has already won the run-off.
How can you say Mr. H does not have a pre-set agenda? If he is accepting the endorsement of the busbarn group he is either going to go-to-bat for that organization once elected OR he is lying to them by accepting their support and not supporting their agenda.
Will he support their cause once elected or is he pandering for their vote and will ignore them if elected?
Either way, his actions indicate he lacks the decision making ability the citizens of Allen deserve in their city council.
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richardb
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12-15-11 07:46 AM - Post#143407
In response to MikeC
How can you say Mr. H does not have a pre-set agenda? If he is accepting the endorsement of the busbarn group he is either going to go-to-bat for that organization once elected OR he is lying to them by accepting their support and not supporting their agenda.
Will he support their cause once elected or is he pandering for their vote and will ignore them if elected?
Either way, his actions indicate he lacks the decision making ability the citizens of Allen deserve in their city council.
Completely non-relevant to his ability to make a decision. IF, and it's a big if, it ever comes before the city council, which it probably won't, he's only one vote. Again, in an election with all the elements of being a low turn-out election, it was quite smart on his part to accept their endorsement as every candidate was operating within a relatively small campaigning window to gather as quickly as possible as many votes as they could. In that respect, he was one step ahead of his competition. In past elections where time allowed, council candidates were interviewed by the Collin County Board of Realtors Executive Board. Then the board made a public announcement to endorse the candidate of their choosing. This didn't mean that candidate owed the realtor profession any special favors if elected, but it was an endorsement and that's what a candidate is looking for. Mr. Baine's campaign seem to hinge on the support of the business community, which he is definately a part of. And what promises did he make to them if elected? It's Campaigning 101.
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Barry_Hubris
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12-15-11 11:33 AM - Post#143416
In response to richardb
Again, in an election with all the elements of being a low turn-out election, it was quite smart on his part to accept their endorsement as every candidate was operating within a relatively small campaigning window to gather as quickly as possible as many votes as they could. In that respect, he was one step ahead of his competition.
Well said Richard. I would jump on the opportunity to get as many votes as possible if I were any of them, especially with the stiff competition. And being just one vote is not going to matter if the bus barn thing comes up at council (which we all know probably will never). So why not be on the side of the Bus Barn people? If it does come at council all he has to do is raise or not raise his hand if the issue ever comes up. Simple as that and will seal his seat with those voters. BTW - I'm still voting for the other guy . . .
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vrs
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01-03-12 10:41 AM - Post#143874
In response to Barry_Hubris
It is time to express one's opinion in the only place that really matters - early voting starts today.
His qualifications for the job - experience, engagement, entrepreneurial spirit and professional maturity - make Baine Brooks my choice in this runoff.
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RRRquilter
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01-05-12 08:48 PM - Post#144021
In response to vrs
Not posting this to anyone in particular. Just wanted to share a link to an article that I read today on Baine.
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